Talk:RuPaul's Drag Race season 5/Archive 1

Archive 1

Alaska and Detox

The stagenames used by the queens are Alaska Thunderfuck and Detox Icunt. However it does appear that in meet the queens on newnownext.com (which seems to be integrated into logotv.com somehow) they are using Alaska and Detox instead (while keeping the full name for queens like Jinkx Monsoon). Did they have this issue (parts of drag names you can't say on non-cable tv) with any of the previous seasons?Naraht (talk) 13:20, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

In the show, they use Alaska and Detox, yes probably because Thunderfuck and Icunt are not the most tv-friendly name. They use Alaska and Detox on the Drag Race's website, so we will keep it like that. -- Fabzzz (talk) 00:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Season 1 had a contestant by the name Rebecca Glasscock and you can't say "cock" on TV. BUT, it is a part of actual last names in some cases so I guess that's why it was allowed? —AMK1211^talk! 04:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe they could let it go because of cock (a chicken)? Haha, but I don't know why. But on the official website and on the TV Show, they use Alaska and Detox, not Alaska Thunderfuck and Detox Icunt. This page is about the tv show RuPaul's Drag Race and not about the drag queens themselves. If the show uses Alaska and Detox, this is what we will use. -- Fabzzz (talk) 05:17, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I updated Alaska and Detox's name and then checked the Talk page. I see there has been some minimal discussion about whether their last names should be used on Wikipedia. I understand why some would initially think we should only use what the network chooses to use on television and their website. I disagree though. We owe it to the performers to have their full drag name available and we owe it to Wikipedia readers to have the information available. The network's site doesn't use their real "boy" names either but we have that on Wikipedia. It boils down to the fact that Wikipedia is about more relevant information, not less. I've added a footnote to their name so readers will understand that they do have a last name but it isn't used on-air. ─ Matthewi ^(Talk) • 04:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Like I mentionned earlier, the difference is that if there is a wikipedia page about Alaska or Detox themselves, then fine, on her page feel free to say her full stage name including Thunderfuck and Icunt. But this is not the page of Alaska nor Detox, it's about RuPaul's Drag Race Season 5. Go check the official web page of the show, the press releases and everything else, and you will clearly see that they use Alaska and Detox only. The relevant information here is that on the show, you will never hear nor see Thunderfuck or Icunt, so why bother put it here? It's never mentionned on the show and this page is about the show, not about the queens. I feel like I'm repeting myself, but that's the bottom line. We use Alaska and Detox because we have no reasons of using anything else. Fabzzz (talk) 18:56, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Fabzzz -- No, no need to repeat yourself. I read the comments and clearly stated I feel that's a very incomplete reason on your part. Have you deleted their real "boy" name from the Wikipedia page since we won't hear many of them said? We definitely never hear their last name. When are you going to delete them? I addressed your point. With all due respect, whether your format is what's agreed on or not, your logic has failed as to WHY their last names aren't included. I've noticed many people have added their last name and it keeps being removed. I provided what I believe to be a logical reason to include their last names: "It boils down to the fact that Wikipedia is about more relevant information, not less." Of course you didn't respond to that point. Also, what you say isn't what goes. Maybe it's just me but your comment reads like you believe your opinion (because that's what it is, an opinion or preference) rules Wikipedia. Let's not make this about you. Okay? To avoid the drama that seems inevitable with making more information available on this page I'll leave it with only their first names but with a footnote telling their full name because, again, Wikipedia is about MORE relevant information, not less. Hopefully you wouldn't get in a editing warring game for drama. There is precedent for adding footnotes when a contestant is known by one name though they have a full name. (I'd note that this season is different because they previous contestants didn't have their names censored by the network, they just typically went by only their first name though they had a first and last name.) Naraht & AMK1211 -- Though the current version is fine with me I'd like to know what you think about using their full drag names on the Wikipedia page. By the way, I just searched NewNowNext.com and noticed they Detox's tag uses her last name and they've also used Alaska's. Wikipedia is edited by the community, not one just one vocal contributor's preference. [1] & [2] ─ Matthewi ^(Talk) • 12:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I never got rude to you so there are no reasons for you to be rude in my direction. Whatever you say, I still think this page is not about the queens but about the show. But since I don't wanna have someone changing the page every 15 minutes because of what they think, or as you call it an "editing warring game for drama", I don't mind leaving the reference thingy you added; don't need to have a footnote and a reference though. And just so you know, it is not only MY way of thinking. Just check back the long history of the page and you will see that whenever someone adds Thunderfuck and Icunt, it gets reverted by other Users as well, not just me. Before accusing anyone of anything, check your sources mate. Fabzzz _talk 16:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Jade Jolie real name

An anon keeps changing the real name of Jade Jolie from Josh Green to Tristan Everhard. Yes, I know where the name comes from, but it is certainly not the "real name" and should not be included there. Please help me watch out for this and revert. Siradia (talk) 07:15, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

The admins won't put a semi-protection on this page, I've asked and they declined... So our only option at this point is just to watch out for those vandals and revert as soon as we see something wrong! --Fabzzz (talk) 16:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Guest judges list... confusing?

Hello, was just curious since the list was divided into two columns, it looks as though the group of guest judges after the column break are part of the "special guest appearances" even though they're actually guest judges. Can anything be done to fix this?

76.208.152.141 (talk) 02:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Yup, we'll leave it into one column Fabzzz _talk 03:31, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Episode Winners Posted Before Airing

I've noticed that at least twice the winner of the mini-challenge (maybe even the runway challenge) has been posted on the page. I just removed the winner that was listed for tonight's show. This shouldn't be posted ahead of time, right? I don't even think they have a source listed. ─ Matthewi ^(Talk) • 18:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I know that the offical Facebook page for the show has had a link to a video on logotv.com for roughly the first 10 minutes of the show (Generally, the return to the workroom to read the fairwell from the previous show, the "she-mail" and the minichallenge.) Since I can't get to facebook from where I am, I can google the string 'ru paul's drag race "part 1 of 6"' to find them on google.

For the coming show it is at http://www.logotv.com/video/misc/887063/rupauls-drag-race-episode-7-season-5-rupaul-roast-part-1-of-6.jhtml?xrs=synd_facebook_rpdr . Since this is an official airing by the network that produces the show, I believe that it *is* a valid source.Naraht (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

You're very right. I believe there are some previews of the night's show on logotv.com and it probably shows what the mini-challenge is and maybe even the winner. But, aside from the actual task of the mini-challenge, I don't think the winner(s) should be posted on the page. It should be posted after the show, and even the task should be posted after the show airs... It spoils the content. ─ Fabzzz _talk 20:01, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

While dealing with things like Olympic Tape Delays, I think the following statement from WP:SPOILER applies. "It is not acceptable to delete information from an article because you think it spoils the outcome of an event or plot to readers in your country or time zone." There are no issue with WP:CRYSTAL since we know that this is from *the* source for the show. Therefore, I believe this information should be restored.Naraht (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

For anything that's in the preview, I wouldn't mind putting it on the page, whether it's the content of the mini-challenge or its winner. But with regards to anything that [wrongfully] spoils the winner of the main challenge, or who's gonna get eliminated, that I don't think has anything to do on this page before the episode airs. ─ Fabzzz _talk 21:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

What caught my eye was that it spoiled part of the show but I didn't delete it because it was a spoiler. I wondered if this was someone with inside information (them being their own primary source) posting the results which they shouldn't be doing. The main reason I deleted the information was because I wasn't sure that it was true or properly sourced. The episode hadn't aired but according to comments here an extended preview did. I hadn't thought about that. Knowing that information I wouldn't have deleted the information. Thanks for letting me know. ─ Matthewi ^(Talk) • 08:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I know right! I know at some point there was a lot of vandalism on this page, but someone changed the name of Roxxxy to Boxxxy, just like she was read during last night's episode, but this was two or three weeks ago. So maybe someone with inside info decide to post those spoilers on the page, including who's eliminated and stuff. But like we discussed, what's shown in that 10 mins preview can be on the page I guess... But anything else I don't think should be on the page before the show airs. ─ Fabzzz _talk 21:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that a couple weeks ago. I wondered if that was some insult that was said in public somewhere or what too. ─ Matthewi ^(Talk) • 23:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

So in *normal* weeks, I would expect that the following would be the order... When the "first 10 minutes" goes up on logotv.com (which I've seen the facebook postings for at between 11AM and 2PM) on Monday, this includes the Farewell from the *previous* week, everything with the minichallenge, what the main challenge is and (not sure) the judges for the main challenge. Everything else comes from the main showing of the episode. Does that seem correct?Naraht (talk) 11:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 March 2013

67.243.136.210 (talk) 20:36, 12 March 2013 (UTC) The dolls' comedy skills are put on the spot as they must roast RuPaul and the celebrity judges in front of a live audience. With guest judges The Help's Leslie Jordan and Absolut Image Czar Jeffrey Moran. After last week's critics during the elimination, Alaska decided to set her apart from Roxxxy Andrews and Detox so she could stand out for what she is. For this week's mini-challenge, the queens were asked to "read" the other contestants. RuPaul declared Alaska the winner of the mini-challenge. For the main challenge, the contestants had to roast RuPaul as well as the judges and the other queens in front of a live audience. As winner of the mini-challenge, Alaska could decide the order in which the queens would perform. The order was: Alaska, Roxxxy Andrews, Coco Montrese, Jinkx Monsoon, Ivy Winters, Alyssa Edwards and Detox. Nadya Ginsburg, Deven Green and Bruce Vilanch coached the queens and guided them for their live performance. During the judges critics, Alaska was praised for her comedy and her look. Michelle Visage admitted to Jinkx Monsoon that she loved her look on the runway and Leslie Jordan said she can have a career in comedy, in or out of drag. Coco Montrese was acclaimed by the judges for her whole performance and her look. Detox was criticted for using the "f-word" too often but was praised for having a sparkle in her eyes during her performance. Alyssa Edwards was criticted for grabbing on to the microphone too much and for her prom-looky dress. Meanwhile, Ivy Winters was criticted for relying on her cue cards too much and Roxxxy Andrews for not delivering her jokes fast enough and not being funny enough. After deliberating, Coco Montrese was declared winner of the main challenge. Roxxxy Andrews and Alyssa Edwards landed in the bottom two. After a stellar performance by both queens, Roxxxy Andrews broke into tears before RuPaul could reveal her decision, saying that being in the bottom two made resufraced some bad childhood memories and that she felt not good enough. After an emotional moment, RuPaul decided to give both queens another chance and they were both safe.

Spelling and grammar mistakes. Should read:

The dolls' comedy skills are put on the spot as they must roast RuPaul and the celebrity judges in front of a live audience. With guest judges, The Help's Leslie Jordan, and Absolut Image Czar Jeffrey Moran. After last week's critiques during the elimination, Alaska decided to set herself apart from Roxxxy Andrews and Detox so she could stand out for what she is. For this week's mini-challenge, the queens were asked to "read" the other contestants. RuPaul declared Alaska the winner of the mini-challenge. For the main challenge, the contestants had to roast RuPaul, as well as the judges and the other queens, in front of a live audience. As winner of the mini-challenge, Alaska decided the order in which the queens would perform. The order was: Alaska, Roxxxy Andrews, Coco Montrese, Jinkx Monsoon, Ivy Winters, Alyssa Edwards and Detox. Nadya Ginsburg, Deven Green, and Bruce Vilanch coached the queens and guided them for their live performance. During the judges critiques, Alaska was praised for her comedy and her look. Michelle Visage admitted to Jinkx Monsoon that she loved her look on the runway, and Leslie Jordan said she can have a career in comedy in or out of drag. Coco Montrese was praised by the judges for her whole performance and her look. Detox was criticized for using the "f-word" too often but was praised for having a sparkle in her eyes during her performance. Alyssa Edwards was criticized for grabbing the microphone too much and for her prom-looking dress. Ivy Winters was criticized for relying on her cue cards too much, and Roxxxy Andrews for not delivering her jokes fast enough and not being funny enough. After deliberating, the judges declared Coco Montrese the winner of the main challenge. Roxxxy Andrews and Alyssa Edwards landed in the bottom two. After a stellar performance by both queens, Roxxxy Andrews broke into tears before RuPaul could reveal her decision, saying that being in the bottom two made some bad childhood memories resurface, and that she always felt not good enough. After an emotional moment, RuPaul decided to give both queens another chance, and they were both safe.

Done.Naraht (talk) 21:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 March 2013

Alaska's name is nut Alaska Thunderfuck, it is Alaska Thunderfvck. I'd like to be able to correct that mistake. 62.159.227.139 (talk) 08:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate that you want to make the change, but googling for "alaska thunderfvck" -"alaska thunderfuck" gives 1,250 hits and the other way around "alaska thunderfuck" -"alaska thunderfvck" gives 65,800 hits and what is apparently her official website and twitter site. I can't find anything that Alaska herself has created that uses thunderfvck. There are a few articles about her that do, but I don't think that's enough. I'm open to the possibility of including both, but I think best is just Thunderfuck.Naraht (talk) 13:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Episode 8 Milestone

As of episode 8, every queen has won a main challenge and nobody has won a main challenge twice. I believe this should be noted as this has never happened before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.76.0.172 (talk) 17:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Hope that's what you wanted! ─ Fabzzz _talk 19:09, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Alyssa Edwards/Lineysha Sparx Debate

There has been some disagreement lately between users regarding Alyssa Edwards' status on week five. Some users want to say she was "IN", while some users want to say she was "LOW". The mattter has already been discussed between those that edit the page often, and it was decided (technically speaking), that she should be considered "LOW" that week. Her impersonation of Katy Perry was poor, as why RuPaul made her tweet an apology. However, she did have immunity, which was the only reason why she was told she was safe. Had it not been for this immunity, she would have been made to stay on stage and given critiques. Season 2 contestants Tyra Sanchez and Tatianna faced the same situation in their season, and they were still marked "LOW" rather than being "IN". This issue does matter because if she is considered one of the worst of that week, then she will have set a milestone, which of course is always important. Regardless of having immunity, she was still one of the worst in the Snatch Game. This is why she has been marked as "LOW". Lineysha follows the same due to her poor performance in the Draggle Rock episode, but having immunity from her win in the previous challenge. Asd17 (talk) 17:48, 24 May 2013 (UTC) )

Coco Montrese

A Drag Race history first happened on Episode 10: a contestant had to lipsync four times in one season. This has never happened in Drag Race history making Coco Montrese one of the worst two, four times in one season. The highest amount of lipsyncs prior to Season 5 was three lipsyncs in one season. This is another first for Season 5, but not something to be proud of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.252.160 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

It's been added in the notes below the contestant table. ─ Fabzzz _talk 23:00, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Rolaskatox

The interaction of those three queens and whether of not it is a Clique as Michelle Visage indicates and whether they should stay together has been one of two significant subplots of the season (the other being Coco vs Alyssa) and yet the phrase "Rolaskatox" doesn't appear anywhere in the article. I'm not sure how or where it should be inserted, but I thought it would make sense to do so in some way.Naraht (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

The summary of episode 7 mentions that Alaska wants to set herself apart from Detox and Roxxxy Andrews, but I understand it doesn't mention Rolaskatox anywhere. We did mention the Heathers in season 3 so it would make sense that we mention it in this article. But it would have to be integrated in the episode summary. I don't exactly remember when this clique started, whether they started coming in the work room saying RO-LASKA-TOX in episode two, or after, but we could include it in some of the episode summary. I don't really know, but we'll figure it out. ─ Fabzzz _talk 04:03, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

So, I've attempted something. Take a look and tell me what you think and how we could change it if you think it could be improve! ... and also added some info about the Coco and Alyssa "feud"─ Fabzzz _talk 04:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Alaska

Alaska is the third contestant in the series to reach the finale without being in the bottom two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FXN101 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

It's not really relevant and useful to mention that she is the third one. It doesn't add anything to the article. It's okay to mention a milestone when it's the first time an event happens, but not really when it's the third... ─ Fabzzz _talk 22:03, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Ah...it's okay. Although I did not say that it has to be included in the milestone category. It can be put under the episode 7 happening. Anyways it's okay, I just thought and just trying to suggest..after all it's an achievement for Alaska. :) Thank you for the response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.203.54 (talk) 07:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I see it now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.168.14 (talk) 19:08, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I think it should be in the article, at least under the appropriate episode. It's true it's not the first time this has happened, but it also not a regular occurance since it did not happen the last two seasons. If this fact should not be included, then Tyra Sanchez's accomplishment of this in season two should be deleted since hers was not the first time either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.168.14 (talk) 19:05, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

It has been included in the episode summary. Come on, check the page correctly before asking for something. The reason why Tyra's case is a note is because she actually won the season. ─ Fabzzz _talk 00:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Episode Eleven: "Bitch Fest"

The mini-challenge for Sugar Ball is described as "a bitch fest with puppets." While somewhat accurate, this isn't the most useful or polite explanation possible. Perhaps something like "the girls create and mock each other with puppet caricatures" would be better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weatherwaxes (talk • contribs) 14:00, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Season 4 had an episode named The Fabulous Bitch Ball, and we include the word bitch in the description, and this is what they use in the show. But I don't want to create an argument for that so I changed it. ─ Fabzzz _talk 22:02, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Roxxy Andrews

Just an idea, but i think there should be a note somewhere on the page stating that Roxxxy Andrews is the third contestant in Drag Race history (behind Nina Flowers and Rebecca Glasscock), to be critiqued on the runway every week up to the finale. She also holds the most weeks to be critiqued, with 12 (twelve) weeks in all. Just a thought. Asd17 (talk) 14:55, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Table Change

(ages and names stated are at time of contest)

Rank		Contestant	Real Name	Age	Hometown	Ep. 1	Ep. 2	Ep. 3	Ep. 4	Ep. 5	Ep. 6	Ep. 7	Ep. 8	Ep. 9	Ep. 10	Ep. 11	Ep. 12	Ep. 13 (Recap)	Ep. 14 (Reunion)
1st (Winner)		Jinkx Monsoon	Jerick Hoffer	25	Seattle, WA	SAFE	SAFE	HIGH	HIGH Team Captain	WIN	HIGH	HIGH	HIGH	'WIN	HIGH	BTM2	SAFE	N/A	WIN
2nd & 3rd (Runners-Up)		Alaska	Justin Andrew Honard	27	Pittsburgh, PA	HIGH	SAFE	LOW Team Captain	SAFE	HIGH	LOW	HIGHMini Challenge WInner	WIN	HIGH	LOW Mini Challenge Winner	WIN Mini Challenge Winner	SAFE	N/A	RUN UP
		Roxxxy Andrews	Michael Feliciano	28	Orlando, FL	WIN	SAFE Immunity	HIGH	LOW	HIGH Mini Challenge Winner	HIGH	BTM2 NO ELIM	LOW	HIGH	WIN	HIGH	SAFE	N/A	RUN UP
4th		Detox	Matthew Sanderson	27	Los Angeles, CA	SAFE Mini Challenge Winner	SAFE Team Captain	WIN	SAFE	BTM2 Mini Challenge Winner	LOW Mini Chalenge Winner	SAFE	HIGH	LOW Team Captain	BTM2	ELIM			RTRN
5th		Coco Montrese	Martin Cooper	37	Las Vegas, NV	SAFE	SAFE	BTM2	SAFE Team Captain	SAFE	BTM2	WIN	LOW	BTM2	ELIM				RTRN
6th		Alyssa Edwards	Justin Johnson	32	Mesquite, TX	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	WIN	LOW Immunity & Mini Challenge Winner	LOW	BTM2 NO ELIM	BTM2	ELIM Team Captain	</nowiki>				RTRN
7th (Ms. Congeniality)		Ivy Winters	Dustin Winters	26	New York, NY	HIGH	HIGH TEAM Team Captain	SAFE	HIGH	LOW	WIN	LOW|	ELIM Mini Challenge Winner						MS. CON
8th		Jade Jolie	Josh Green	25	Gainesville, FL	LOW	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	ELIM								RTRN
9th		Lineysha Sparx	Andy Trinidad	24	San Juan, PR	HIGH	WIN	LOW Immunity & Team Captain	SAFE	ELIM									RTRN
10th & 11th (Dual Elimination)		Honey Mahogany	Alpha Mulugeta	29	San Francisco, CA	SAFE	HIGH TEAM	SAFE	2X ELIM										RTRN
		Vivienne Pinay	Michael Donehoo	26	New York, NY	SAFE	HIGH TEAM	LOW	2X ELIM										RTRN
12th		Monica Beverly Hillz	Juan DeJesus Anaya	27	Owensboro, KY	SAFE	BTM2	ELIM											RTRN
13th		Serena Cha Cha	Myron Morgan	21	Tallahassee, FL	BTM2	ELIM Team Captain												RTRN
14th (Fan Vote Winner)		Penny Tration	Tony Kody	39	Cincinnati, OH	ELIM													RTRN

█ The contestant won RuPaul's Drag Race.

█ The contestant was a runner-up.

█ The contestant won the main challenge. Winners in Episodes 1, 2, and 4 received immunity the following week.

█ The contestant was one of the best but did not win the main challenge.

█ The contestant was a member of a winning team but did not win the main challenge.

█ The contestant was one of the worst but did not place in the bottom two.

█ The contestant placed in the bottom two but neither was eliminated.

█ The contestant placed in the bottom two but was not eliminated.

█ The contestant placed in the bottom two & was eliminated.

█ The contestant placed in the bottom two & both were eliminated.

█ After being eliminated, The contestant was voted Ms. Congeniality by viewers on Episode 14.

█ After being eliminated, The contestant returned and appeared on Episode 14 (The Reunion), but was out of the running.

█ The contestant did not participated in the episode.

Add This Table To The Article Please 98.237.141.251 (talk) 01:14, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Alyssa Edwards

Stop saying Alyssa Edwards was LOW in Episode 5 and 6. I literally just watched the episode and she was declared SAFE in those episodes, she was not in the bottom. She wasn't in the 6 that had to stay on stage, so that means that she was not in the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.190.153.14 (talk) 11:45, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Placing Ranks

It's might be a good idea to placing ranks on each season chart. For Example: Season 5

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Happypillsjr (talk • contribs) 4:32, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Contestant	Real Name	Age	Rank
Jinkx Monsoon	Jerick Hoffer	24	WINNER
Alaska	Justin Andrew Honard	27	RUNNER-UP
Roxxxy Andrews	Michael Feliciano	28	RUNNER-UP
Detox	Matthew Sanderson	28	4th
Coco Montrose	Martin Cooper	37	5th
Alyssa Edwards	Justin Johnson	32	6th
Ivy Winters	Dustin Winters	25	7th
Jade Jolie	Josh Green	25	8th
Lineysha Sparx	Andy Trinidad	24	9th
Honey Mahogany	Alpha Mulugeta	29	10th/11th
Vivienne Pinay	Michael Donehoo	26	11th/10th
Monica Beverly Hillz	Juan Dejesus Anaya	27	12th
Serena ChaCha	Myron Morgan	21	13th
Penny Tration	Tony Kody	39	14th

And where exactly would you put that? Before the contestants table? I believe everything would get a bit too repetitive. I don't feel like it's needed. ─ Fabzzz _talk 22:08, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I agree, to repetitive. --LurganShmith (talk) 10:00, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Highs and Lows

132.248.103.244; Please read WP:Original Research. This statement: "Sometimes it is very obvious who stay at LOW, mainly the first 5 weeks" is the definition of that. Chase (talk) 01:01, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

RuPaul called the top and bottom some queens — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.169.31.248 (talk) 01:14, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

If she did, then you're going to have to cite the source for every single high and low placement where she says that. Oath2order (talk) 01:15, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Okay, just the color you put the box does not look good. I also believe that you must specify who remain among the best and who was among the worst. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.248.103.245 (talk) 18:27, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

F*ck all u guys — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.248.103.245 (talk) 19:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

This is so annoying... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hughes.1517 (talk • contribs) 11:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

New Color Changes

Hi I've have very great changes color changes on charts for the season.

  The Contestant won RuPaul's Drag Race.

  The contestant is a runner-up.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Happypillsjr (talk • contribs) 1:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

The winner of the season is the color Gold (#D4AF37), rather then the color Goldenrod (gold), because #D4AF37 is true gold, signifiing a winner, as gold medalist; and Silver for runner-up to signify 2nd place, and/or a silver medalist.--LurganShmith (talk) 01:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Unless you were trying to reply to this section: Abbreviations in contestant progress.--LurganShmith (talk) 01:57, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Really? So you see my reply, then you change "plum" to "silver" in your original post, and leave no new response? Okay.--LurganShmith (talk) 02:12, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

If you want "plum" for the color for runner-up.

Make the a little lighter. Here more results:

  The contestant won a main challenge.

  the contestant is the best didn't won a challenge.

  the contestant is the worst but not in the bottom 2

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Happypillsjr (talk • contribs) 10:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I disagree with that proposition. The actual colors are perfectly fine as they are, much better than the previous colors we had before. The gold and silver are fine and indicative of a winner and a runner-up. We already had this discussion on this talk page, if you scroll up just a little, you will see the whole discussion, or as LurganShmith said, click here. ─ Fabzzz _talk 22:53, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 July 18 § Template:DragRaceProgressTable/5

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 July 18 § Template:DragRaceProgressTable/5. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

RfC on table

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject RuPaul's Drag Race#RfC: Proposed progress table for all RPDR shows. Gleeanon409 (talk) 00:42, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Ongoing discussion regarding high, safe and low placements.

Hello all. Currently, at the page for the RPDR Wikiproject, we started a discussion about how to properly define these placements, since the lack of clear criteria has led to a lot of subjective edits and in some cases, edit warring. Since these definitions could potentially effect the placement tables through all the seasons, we would like to receive the widest possible input, to make sure that all the views and perspectives are taken in account. So, anyone interested in taking part in the conversation, please give us your view at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_RuPaul%27s_Drag_Race#Establishing_a_consistent_criteria_for_SAFE%2C_HIGH_and_LOW_placements Not A Superhero (talk) 05:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)