Talk:Rob Hall

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The information on the 1996 Everest disaster was removed because much of it had little to do with Hall and it was essentially a plot summary of Krakauer's novel (an account which is disputed). The Everest 1996 disaster really deserves its own article.

Elpoca 16:20, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Hall's end is disputed. Lopsang Jangbu reported him on the Hillary Step, radio transmissions have recorded his voice and what he did, and the IMAX Everest guys found him. The Anatoli Boukreev parts are disputed, for sure, but Hall has avoided it. Also, even if there was a separate 1996 disaster article, it's still relevent to Hall's life to report his last expedition - your removal omits all but a brief sentence mention. Hbdragon88 16:20, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've restored what I removed. I still believe, however, that the 1996 disaster needs its own article, and that this article (and the articles of the other climbers involved) should link to it. Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to write it... Elpoca

I agree about that - I was for one surprised that, with all the publicity and books on the subject, that there was no devoted article to it. Then again, I was also surprised that the 1986 K2 disaster was simply wedged into the Alan Rouse article. Hbdragon88 01:59, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stub?[edit]

Should this article still be a stub? I'm tempted to remove the tag, but i also feel there's a LOT of room for expansion on this article. Anyone object to the removal?

Oh dear[edit]

Since when does an encyclopaedia pass judgement? Phrases like "Hall's mistake was not enforcing his turnaround time" are pure speculation. One could argue that his mistake was not abandoning his client. Further, usage of words such as "egregerious" are judgemental in tone. Factual, NPOV please, I've done a quick edit. No facts were removed, but plenty of speculation and opinion was. --Cynos.

Sadly, much of this page is a direct rid from Krakauer's Into thin air. I think this infringes copyrights. Perhaps the book may be a source but to rip it off word for word is really not worthy especially for those that have read into thin air. All said though, Perhaps nobody can put it better than Krakauer but the above article is right... Wikipedia should remain solid with facts and not pass judgements on individuals unless said so from an obvious close source or Rob himself and in such an occasion this should be mentioned too. (Arvindeyunni (talk) 05:56, 25 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Child naming[edit]

I believe Hall and his wife discussed names for their child whilst he was dying atop Everest. If someone can confirm this, please include it...

It was stated in the recent issue of Climbing magazine that Rob Hall spoke with his wife via satellite phone and named their unborn daughter before he died. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.7.115 (talk) 08:20, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Ball[edit]

The page says "In October 1993, Ball died of cerebral edema". Most sources say that Ball died (on Dhaulagiri) of HAPE. Bob Ayers (summited Vinson with Hall, December 1995) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.11.61 (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear wording in 1996 Everest disaster[edit]

This section, para. 2, begins by saying "Shortly after midnight on 10 May 1996". Normally (surely?) "Midnight on Thursday" refers to the boundary between Thursday and Friday, not the other thing. But this is about a summit attempt on 10 May, and is confusing. Rather than change to "9 May", I'm asking for suggestions of the clearest way to write it. Imaginatorium (talk) 07:52, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that the current wording could mean another day. They started the summit attempt on 10 May 1996, shortly after midnight, and the plan was to reach the summit on 10 May 1996 around midday, and go back down on 10 may 1996 before sunset, and I think the best way to say that is the current wording. Akseli9 (talk) 13:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Date of death[edit]

Is it known he died on May 11? It's possible he didn't, his body wasn't found until about the 23rd... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.210.146 (talk) 20:10, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Body left on-site[edit]

@MeadeIndeed: Do you know of a source that confirms Hall's body was left below the South Summit? You mentioned the same claim appears on the 1996 Mount Everest disaster page, but that paragraph is missing sources as well. – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 00:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Broccoli and Coffee: Managed to find several, there is even an image that was taken of Rob Hall's body where it lies about 12 days after the 1996 disaster. Seeing as how both Rob and his wife were experienced climbers I'm sure it's still up on the mountain as I doubt she would agree to endanger the lives of others to get her husband down from the height where he is (around 8300m up I believe?).

Attatching some links below.

Article about Rob Hall, info on body at the end.

Description of difficulty bringing bodies down and image of Hall's body as well as Fisher's.

Last paragraph here also says his body hasn't been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeadeIndeed (talk • contribs)

Great, thanks – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 02:50, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, want it all to be above board of course. Sorry for not signing my post, still kinda new at this stuff. Hopefully this'll count as a proper signature. MeadeIndeed (talk) 03:22, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]