Talk:Raymond W. Bliss

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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Army's first radioactive isotope laboratory

* ... that in 1949 the U.S. Army’s first radioactive isotope laboratory (pictured) was opened by General Raymond W. Bliss?

Source 1 - "The Army’s first radioactive isotope laboratory was opened officially on March 4 at the Army Medical Center by Major General Raymond W. Bliss, Surgeon General of the Army." (page 220)

Source 2 - This, the first isotope laboratory in any Army installation, was inaugurated on March 4 in a ceremony in which Major General Raymond W. Bliss, the Surgeon General officiated, (page 312)

Source 3 - A new laboratory for the study of radioactive isotopes at the Army Medical Department Research and Graduate School Washington DC was officially opened on 4 March (page 425)

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John R. Countryman

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 11:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I have tweaked the hook to specify the army and added the italics to (pictured), but otherwise everything checks out. A nice article and a decent hook. It would be nice if this hook could be run on March 4th. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 21:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

• "was a senior United States Army officer of various ranks from Lieutenant to Major General" 1. He can't have been a senior officer while a lieutenant. If you want to retain that formulation, you need to lose "senior". 2. Lower case l, m and g, per MOS:JOBTITLES; and for consistency with elsewhere in the article.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:34, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• Is there some link for "Indian station"?

•  Done Footnote [11] is a news clip reference that says this 3/4 down obit. I have changed "Indian station" to "Indian possession." --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• Are you/your sources claiming that from August 1920 to September 1921 Bliss both learnt surgery and taught medical procedures?

•  Done Reworded to He remained there through September 1921 to get further instructions in advanced surgical procedures. Will that work?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:39, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

It will.

• "He was the commanding officer of Fort Sill hospital in Oklahoma in 1941. He was in London, England, during the German air raids from the fall of 1940 to the winter of 1941 as a military observer and medical correspondent." 1. The sentences seem out of chronological order. 2. Does that mean that he was CO of a hospital he never visited? 3. By "winter" do you mean the early part of the year? If so, MOS:SEASON suggests that one "avoid the use of seasons to refer to a particular time of year ([eg] winter 1995)" - replace with the actual month.

•  Done Reworded accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:51, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Good. I have given it a further tweak. See what you think.

• "In August 1944, Bliss was Assistant Surgeon General until he was promoted to Deputy Surgeon General in January 1946" Lower case in the titles.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• "He was at that time endorsed to the rank of Major General" 1. "endorsed is an odd usage; maybe just 'promoted'? 2. Lower case m and g.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:11, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• "Bliss had toured Korea in October 1950" Why the switch to past tense? Suggest deleting "had".

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:30, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• "Medevac" - lower case m.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• "with the result that death rates were lower compared to World War I and World War II, with improved recovery rates." What is the difference between a lower death rate and an improved recovery rate?

•  Done - copy edited accordingly.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

More to follow. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC) Thanks for starting GA review. I'll start working on the improvements today. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:29, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• "The first projects the atomic researchers did involved" Maybe "did" → 'carried out'?

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:30, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is funny about lists. You can about get away with his awards and qualifications in list form, but offices and activities need to be in prose - eg "Helped establish the Tripler Army Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii"; "Surgeon General of U. S. Army"; "Raymond W Bliss Army Health Center at Ft Huachuca, Arizona, named after him."; "Oscar for Documentary Short Subject at the 21st Academy Awards for the film Toward Independence, June 1949".

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• I have done a little copy editing. Shout if you think I have messed anything up. = looks O.K. to me.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
• I can see several things in the list which could do with Wikilinking, eg Distinguished Service Medal.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Nice. I have moved some of the sections around. Feel free to revert if you don't like.

More to follow. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:33, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

• @Gog the Mild: Done for now. Will work on any additional improvements you suggest. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Quick work, and good. To my eye, that meets the criteria. A nice little article. Good work. Promoting Gog the Mild (talk) 20:06, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

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