Talk:RTV silicone

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This page totally neglects common single component Silicon rubber and RTV.

The article on Silicon Rubber offers a bit more information but like this article, is focused on 2 part mixtures used for mold making.

Room Temperature Vulcanization, RTV, is an abused term but is slapped on many Silicone Products. Vulcanization is a process that adds Sulfur to polymer chains to harden Carbon based "rubbers". I suppose over time the term RTV got put on any rubbery substance that cures at room temperature. Silicones do not use Carbon or Sulfur. A better term would have been Room "Temperature Cure Silicone Rubber".

In the Aircraft maintenance industry, RTV is synonymous with single part Silicone Rubber. Of course specific Mil-Specs and grades are specified for various applications. It is the Grade and Mil-Spec that is important, not the term RTV or Silicone Rubber. I have no references, Just 24 years experience in aircraft maintenance.

The best information on single part and 2 component Silicone Rubber is in the article labeled Vulcanization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcanization#Vulcanization_of_silicones

This is where I found the technical information I came here for. I would just copy and paste this information but am not familiar with writing articles.

I hope this helps anyone seeking information.

JTH

    Thank you,  whenever I go to a hardware store what I find is single component rtv silicone,      
    which is also categorized by color  (red,  green,  black),  two aspects this article fails to 
    mention  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Granito diaz (talk • contribs) 23:27, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

JTH, You are right, and I, too, found the article to be limited with its focus on dual component and no mention of RTV.

"Vulcanization is a process that adds Sulfur to polymer chains to harden Carbon based "rubbers"."

I would like to provide you with a bit of information based on my background in chemistry. Vulcanization refers to cross-linking of the polymer chains in a material, not necessarily the elements used in the cross links or the exact composition of the polymer chain. Vulcanization was discovered by Charles Goodyear and the original process cross-linked natural rubber (carbon-hydrogen polymer) with surfer atoms. However, vulcanization now refers to cross linking any polymer (such as silicon polymer) by any means. It is the cross-linking of elastic polymers, not necessarily hydro-carbon polymers, and not necessarily with sulfur.

"I would just copy and paste this information but am not familiar with writing articles." The Wikipedia motto is BE BOLD! Go ahead, cut and paste, and do your best! I look forward to seeing your update to this important article!

Thanks, Alan.A.Mick (talk) 22:00, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RTV silicone rubber was invented at General Electric in upstate New York in the 1960s, by a team including Clarence Smith. Mr. Smith named his third son Roger Thomas Victor Smith. I do NOT have a citation for that, besides a comment by his daughter Lorraine Smith Tellei of Palau. Without a citation this factoid does not belong in the article, but if anybody could find one (GE employee newsletter, perhaps?), it might make the article more engaging. KeithLofstrom (talk) 15:30, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Alan.A.Mick:@KeithLofstrom: Please check out Vulcanization then leave advice. We would especially welcome your citing books or overview articles.--Smokefoot (talk) 23:01, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Article does not meet Wiki specs.[edit]

...a common complaint here: "This page totally neglects common single component Silicon rubber and RTV." Why are these people ignored? That's not a rhetorical question.

The article ignores the Wiki guidelines to appeal to average people. That's a Fail. This article only covers industrial and chemical technical interests. Yet that it's a common household "glue," often even sold in grocery stories is utterly ignored.

Please improve or delete the article by including consumer, hobbyist, and other small scale usages and interests of everyday people. ...for examples, compared to other household adhesives, what it doesn't bond to, UV resistance, applications, etc. YRYR4E43S54FUYG6F4S53S56D5S4A3YTF5EDTVUVYTXWR CDT The current article does not belong on Wikipedia, nor any general encyclopedia —by definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CFCE:1EE0:3963:C38C:4FD5:440C (talk) 17:25, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well we would welcome some help but not many of the Wikipedia editors know anything about the subject. We figured that the current information, which appears to be correct but incomplete, was better than no information. --Smokefoot (talk) 18:02, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]