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Factual inaccuracies in recent edits

A user active on this page made 2 inaccurate edits recently.

On January 27 CollegeMeltdown added "Purdue Global's student body in 2020 included about 7000 servicemembers and 5000 veterans." Citing https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=purdue+university+global&s=all&id=489779#service. This is an inaccurate representation of the source material. The source cited reports the number of students who received benefits from the Post-9/11 GI Bill and DoD Tuition Assistance during the 2018-2019 academic year, and does not accurately reflect the 2020 student body. Also, this NCES source is not reporting those who receive benefits from the Montgomery GI Bill or take into consideration the transfer of these benefits to family members.

On February 1, the same user added "In the February issue of Emergency Medical News, two doctors questioned the vetting process of Purdue Global's emergency nurse practioners program, a program that reportedly admitted all 500 applicants." Citing https://journals.lww.com/em-news/Fulltext/2021/02000/After_the_Match__Boosting_Profits_Drives_NP.6.aspx. This is factually inaccurate and a misreading of the source material. Purdue University Global does not offer an emergency nurse practitioner program. See source: https://www.purdueglobal.edu/degree-programs/nursing/

I will also alert this editor on their talk page (User talk:CollegeMeltdown) requesting corrections or removal. Ewqwdqemdh (talk) 23:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to Merge Purdue University Global and Kaplan University Articles

Rationale

I would like to propose the merger of the articles on Purdue University Global (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purdue_University_Global) and Kaplan University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaplan_University) into a single, unified article. The reason behind this proposal is that both articles essentially represent the same institution, with Purdue University Global being the new name and continuation of Kaplan University after its acquisition by Purdue University. In the interest of providing clear, accurate, and comprehensive information to Wikipedia users, it would be more efficient and appropriate to have a single, merged article that reflects the entire history and evolution of the institution, instead of having two separate articles that may cause confusion.

Proposed Merge Strategy

To ensure a seamless merger of the two articles, I propose the following strategy: Article Title: The new article should be titled "Purdue University Global," as it is the institution's current name and branding. This decision is in line with Wikipedia's naming conventions, which generally prioritize the most recent and commonly used name. Lead Section: The lead section should provide an overview of the institution, including its current status as Purdue University Global, its history as Kaplan University, and the acquisition by Purdue University. History Section: The history section should comprehensively cover the timeline of the institution, including the founding of Kaplan University, its growth and development, the acquisition by Purdue University, and the subsequent rebranding to Purdue University Global. This section should provide clear context and continuity between the two stages of the institution's existence. Academics, Campus, and Student Life Sections: These sections should be updated to reflect the current information about Purdue University Global, incorporating relevant information from the Kaplan University article as necessary. Criticism and Controversy Section: This section should include any controversies or criticisms related to both Kaplan University and Purdue University Global. Presenting this information in a single section ensures that readers receive a balanced perspective on the institution's history and practices. References and External Links: All references and external links from both articles should be combined and properly cited in the merged article, ensuring that all information is verifiable and properly sourced.

Request for Feedback

I kindly request feedback from the Wikipedia community regarding this proposal. If there are no major objections within a reasonable timeframe, I will proceed with the merger as outlined above. If there are any concerns or suggestions for improvement, I am more than happy to collaborate and make necessary adjustments to ensure the best outcome for the Wikipedia community and its users. Thank you for your consideration. Ushistorygeek (talk) 22:12, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

I am skeptical but ultimately it would depend on the execution and intent. I do not believe a significant portion of the Purdue University Global article should be dedicated to Kaplan University. Kaplan University not only got a new owner, it ceased to exist in the eyes of regulators and a new university with new accreditation was created as a public and non-profit, Purdue Global. It would be inaccurate and a disservice to readers to confuse that point by dwelling on past controversies or to hide that Purdue runs the school and Purdue Global and Kaplan University are not the same thing. If merged, I think the entire Kaplan University page should be abbreviated into a single and brief history section. There obviously is already a history section in Purdue Global but it's a bit of a mess. It's been a while since I worked on this page and think it could use some cleanup. I think it makes more sense to focus on cleaning this page up and updating it rather than folding another university into it. JA1776 (talk) 13:30, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Your assertion that the institution ceased to exist is factually incorrect. The institution itself does still exist in the eyes of the accreditor, and in fact, the HLC approved a change of ownership application as part of the purchase of Kaplan University. https://www.purdue.edu/senate/documents/meetings/Kaplan%20Pre-acquisition%20Letter%209.13.17_Redacted.html Ushistorygeek (talk) 16:50, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Kaplan University is not an accredited operating university. It has ceased to exist. Purdue University took over the assets (sold much of it), changed the leadership and created a new university that had to go through a new accreditation process. As such, Kaplan University should have a part of this page, but it should be as part of it's history, not as part of what Purdue Global is today. JA1776 (talk) 17:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

You are correct, Kaplan University, as a legal entity is no more. However, it no longer exists because it become Purdue University Global. The application for the change ownership spelled it out clearly:

"KU is seeking approval from HLC for a change of ownership resulting from its acquisition by Purdue. After the acquisition, KU will be a separately accredited, non-profit, Indiana public benefit corporation (“NewU”, for the purposes of this report) within the Purdue University system."

While I understand your concerns, JA1776, the proposed merge is intended to provide a comprehensive view of the institution's history and evolution. The proposed merger strategy specifically includes separate sections for the history of Kaplan University and Purdue University Global, ensuring that the distinction between the two is maintained. Additionally, the proposal suggests keeping controversies and criticisms related to both institutions in a single section, which helps maintain a balanced perspective.

It's important to remember that Wikipedia aims to provide clear, accurate, and comprehensive information to its users. By merging the two articles, we can create a more coherent presentation of the institution's history, avoiding potential confusion caused by having separate articles, while providing context and continuity throughout the merged article.

As the proposal is open for feedback and collaboration, we can work together to ensure that the merger is executed in a way that addresses your concerns while maintaining accuracy and clarity. If you have specific suggestions for improvement or would like to contribute to the merged article, your input would be greatly appreciated. Ushistorygeek (talk) 22:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion on whether the articles should merge but if they do merge then it would be completely unacceptable to simply erase most of the history of Kaplan University. ElKevbo (talk) 21:58, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Logo Update

It appears as though a potential COI user is attempting to update the Purdue Global logo on this page. That attempt was removed by another user and I am not necessarily opposed to that but it does appear as though the current logo on the page is not up to date. This isn't my expertise, but I would think a COI user actually may be one of the only users that can make such a change given that they are likely to be the one who owns the rights. As such, should we permit this change? Does anyone have any expertise on this matter?JA1776 (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)