Talk:Princess Victor of Hohenlohe-Langenburg

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Wrong location?[edit]

My understanding is that Countess Gleichen's marriage to Prince Victor was not considered equal in Germany, and only kind of informally and intermittently considered so in England. Should she be at Laura Countess Gleichen or some such article title? The current title seems clearly wrong. john k (talk) 04:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As the article notes, "...she continued to use her comital title until 15 December 1885, when [Princess Victor of Hohenlohe-Langenburg] was gazetted in the Court Circular." As she lived her entire life in England and was known there by her husband's princely title with authorization of the British monarch, locating Laura's article thereunder seems an appropriate exception This is especially so given that the morganatic nature of her marriage in Germany is explicitly revealed in the article: Had her marriage been ebenburtig her correct title would have been "Princess Laura of Hohenlohe-Langenburg." A similar circumstance and accommodation simultaneously existed with respect to the wife of Prince Edward of Saxe-Weimar at the Court of St. James's. FactStraight (talk) 15:43, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Was she actually consistently referred to as "Princess Victor" after 1885? If so, I'll concede the point. john k (talk) 17:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what standard you want to apply: "consistently referred to as 'Princess Victor' after 1885" by whom? Google hits? I tend not to rely on them but at least let us know what other options you compare them with if you cite them here. The Almanach de Gotha? According to p. 141 of the 1908 version, at which time her address in widowhood is given as St James's Palace in London, no: there, to no surprise, she is only referred to by the title conferred on her in 1861 by the monarch of Gotha -- "comtesse de Gleichen." In the British Court Circular, where I would imagine she would have been more often referred to than in any other publication of her time, prior to 1865 she is sometimes called Princess Victor and sometimes Countess Gleichen, but a search for references to her in subsequent Circulars would be necessary to confirm that, following that year's formal declaration on orders of the Queen, she was actually so styled (a search that Velde conducted in confirming that the style of her contemporary Lady Augusta Gordon-Lennox was thenceforward altered, both women's status changes having occurred at the same time). I would be very surprised if the Circulars failed to enforce Victoria's request with respect to Laura. FactStraight (talk) 21:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I meant "in the court circular," more or less. The London Gazette's usage, if any (I'm not sure when she would come up there, if at all), might also be useful, or any other references in the regular British press. john k (talk) 14:45, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]