Talk:Owen County Courthouse and Jail

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Requested move 25 November 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:52, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Owen County Courthouse and Jail → Owen County Courthouse (Kentucky) – It's rather unusual to combine two buildings into one article like this, and the courthouse is notable on its own, independent of the courthouse. Since there is also a courthouse in Indiana, this is the more common disambiguation. kennethaw88 • talk 08:44, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The article is about both a historic courthouse (which has a photo included) and a historic jail (which needs a photo). It is listed on the National Register as "Owen County Courthouse and Jail"; the National Register listing is how we know this is notable as a Wikipedia topic. There are many hundreds or thousands or pairs of buildings that are listed on the National Register as pairs. And far more buildings are included in combination listings than are listed individually, so I do not understand the assertion of something being "unusual" here. It would be inaccurate to move the article as proposed. Or does the nominator wish to propose a split into two articles? I don't see the need for that. And, there already exist redirects from Owen County Courthouse (Owenton, Kentucky) (which uses location as a disambiguation phrase in a way that actually tells readers where it is located) and, sure, Owen County Courthouse (Kentucky) (which begs the question of "where is it located?") to this article. Actually there is further a relatively new Owen County Judicial Center at 401 S. Main St. in Owenton, which may have a courtroom and/or a jail (this webpage doesn't say). I don't see any problem existing or addressed by the proposed move.

About splitting off a separate article about the jail: if that were to be done, then some differentiation would be needed to distinguish it from another Owen County Jail that exists in Spencer, Indiana, an Owen County Jail that exists in Carrollton, Kentucky (from quick websearching), and perhaps from the newish Owen County Judicial Center. I myself don't particularly want to create articles and associated disambiguation about these and any more that might exist. I don't think all the separate courthouse buildings and jail buildings are Wikipeda-notable; covering the together-recognized pair of historic buildings together in one article seems about right.

Also, readers interested in historic places may be searching for "Owen County Courthouse and Jail"; that is the name for this historic site as reflected in websites such as https://nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/ky/owen/state.html which serve info about National Register-listed places. --Doncram (talk) 15:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

--Doncram (talk) 15:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.