Talk:Ole Miss–Vanderbilt football rivalry

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What?[edit]

Not sure why this article was created as there is no rivalry between Ole Miss and Vanderbilt. True, they play each other every year but it's not a heated rivalry or rivalry at all. allstar✰echo 19:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to Ole Miss–Vanderbilt football rivalry. Favonian (talk) 15:49, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vanderbilt–Ole Miss football rivalry → Ole Miss–Vanderbilt football rivalry – Every other college football rivalry listed in Category:College football rivalries in the United States that lists the teams' names in the page title does so alphabetically. This page's name should modified to reflect that standard, as well. -Jhortman (talk) 16:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. ENeville (talk) 23:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Three column vs. one column series results arrangement[edit]

Since there has been disagreement on the 3-column vs. 1-coumn series results setup, I'm creating this section for discussion so we can arrive at a consensus. I'm in favor of the three-column arrangement, primarily because an 86-row table takes up an enormous amount of page real estate. It's unwieldy to reference, and doesn't provide the same concise view that the 3-column setup provides. Not only that, but the 3-column arrangement is used in most of the rivalry wiki pages that I would consider to be "better" pages, such as Florida–Georgia football rivalry, Auburn–Florida football rivalry, Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate, Deep South's Oldest Rivalry, and Michigan–Ohio State football rivalry (which actually uses 4 columns). -Jhortman (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the 3-column format myself, particularly the way it tends to take up multiple lines of text for one single game. For example, on the Florida–Georgia football rivalry, on my display "October 15," displays on one line and "1904" gets bumped down to a second line, actually making the table twice as big as it needs to be. IMHO, it would be much better to have "October 15, 1904," "Macon, GA," "Georgia," and "52–0" all running across the page in one clean, single line of text. Again, JMHO, though. Anything to save us from the mess that is the table on the Civil War (college football game) page! Ejgreen77 (talk) 15:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's interesting, because on my screen, the table at the FL/GA article is one line per game. What browser are you using? I suspect there's also a parameter that could be inserted to prevent text wrapping. -Jhortman (talk) 17:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm using Firefox, and what I would consider to be fairly "standard" settings and sizes (1024x768). FWIW, I tried it out in Safari and Chrome, and had the exact same issue in both of them, too. When it comes down to it, though, I think that having the two lines is better than forcing the issue with text wrapping, in which case at least part of the third column is going to be off screen, leading to horizontal scroll and all kinds of other bad things. Again, JMHO. Ejgreen77 (talk) 18:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The column construction aside, the colors are quite unreadable. I know those are the official colors, but WP:COLOR takes primacy. There ought to be a way to make the table more readable.--GrapedApe (talk) 22:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- According to this tool, the Vanderbilt colors meet the WCAG AA contrast level, but the Ole Miss colors do not. I suggest changing the Ole Miss text color to white. -Jhortman (talk) 22:34, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple columns should be used where possible to eliminate whitespace. Those colors need work as well. Finally, all of the scores need to be punctuated with endashes, not hyphens. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:47, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Patriarca12, thanks for fixing the dashes here. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There has been no update in the last week on this discussion, and there does not seem to be a consensus yet. To help reach a consensus, I suggest the following changes:

Change the text color for the Ole Miss victories in the results table to #FFFFFF (white) to conform with WCAG contrast level requirements at WP:COLOR.
Format the results table to two columns to help eliminate whitespace. (Not 3 columns, since it appears to display poorly for those users at lower screen resolutions.)

Your input is appreciated. -Jhortman (talk) 12:37, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I like the white for ole Miss wins, I think that splitting the score would be a good thing also. You can easily search for the score and separate them, you can go to the top and click on ether the lowest scores for ether team. MDSanker 14:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm late to the party, but let me add my opinion. I prefer the single column layout that allows for the table to be sorted. In the case of this particular list, I would split out the two scores, so they could be sorted as well. For this list, I would try to follow the criteria for a Featured List which includes table sort functionality.»NMajdan·talk 17:38, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1942 game[edit]

The 1942 game was held in Memphis, not Oxford. I have deleted the sentence stating that this game was Vanderbilt's first away win over Ole Miss, as it was neither their first win in Oxford--that would nor occur until the 1980's--nor their first as an "away" team; they had several wins in Memphis by that point. HandsomeSam57 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:57, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]