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Name[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move Parsecboy (talk) 11:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This should be the Nu page, not the Naunet page, as Nu is the focus of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kutera Genesis (talk • contribs) 17:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, as this deity is better known as Nu or Nun than in the female form of Naunet. In fact, this page was once housed at Nu (mythology), but was moved here for unexplained reasons. This means that there is more than one edit it that article's history, so I can't move the page back by myself. I'm putting in a request for an administrator to do so. A. Parrot (talk) 22:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

I wont edit the above section BUT[edit]

I wont edit the above section, but the argument needs extending. The problem is that Nun should be in a list of Egyptian Gods and instead gets redirected to this page. The actual facts seem basically the same but the article focuses totally on this concept of an Ogdoad which I suspect simply appropriated Nun and the others from the standard list. I doubt thats its actually OR directly but its still a way out wacky concept and here is presented as standard Egyptology. - I know the obsession of putting gods and numbers together is an occultist obsession but I need a more unbiased approach please! Lucien86 (talk) 09:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Ogdoad was an important part of ancient Egyptian theology, and Nu/Nun was definitely a part of it. Granted, the current article on the Ogdoad devotes as much space to a Gnostic Ogdoad (which I know nothing about) as to the Egyptian one, but the concept does not derive from occultism. A. Parrot (talk) 01:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Heh or Nu?[edit]

Re: recent edit revert by David1217 ... I agree with A.Parrot it is Heh from papyrus of Ani see http://www.practicaltheurgy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/plate8-2.jpg ...figure is called Heh if you can read the glyphs (putting this comment here to avoid back and forth) Apepch7 (talk) 16:11, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The Heh sign,

, is definitely present in the hieroglyphic caption in the papyrus image, whereas I don't think the hieroglyphs for Nun,

, are there. Both the papyrus and the SVG file show the god with the notched palm branch that Heh often carries. And the description provided by the creator of the SVG image, User:Jeff Dahl, originally said that it was a specialized form of Heh. The description was changed to say "Nun" by an IP editor in 2009. Dahl researched his illustrations pretty well; the IP editor was probably just half-informed. For that reason, I've restored Dahl's version of the file description.

I've informed David1217 of this discussion. If there are no objections, I'll remove the image from this article in a day or so. A. Parrot (talk) 17:15, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is of course a relationship between the heh gods and Nu(n)and the Ogdoad ... supports of Shu (is it the Book of the Divine Cow?) as the water filled/covered body of this figure indicate but as I think Jeff took this image from the Pap. of Ani then specifically the figure is Heh (reference to two lakes in Ch. 17 BoD.)Apepch7 (talk) 19:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

wtt HHw rn n wa wAD-wr rn n ky ir grt nTr pfy aA nty im.s ra pw Ds.f

Begetter of millions is the name of one, Great Green is the name of the other, And as for the great god mentioned who is in, it is Ra himself

http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/literature/religious/bd17.html

wtt HHw = begetter of millions … where HH means either 'millions or infinity'

... so I would guess here that the reference is to Heh as one of the Ogdoad and so def related to Nun ... BUT the glyphs suggest it is Heh. Apepch7 (talk) 19:29, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I really have no clue who the picture's about, I added it back in simply because in the description it said it was of Nun. Sorry about reverting your edit, I was simply misinformed. David1217 (talk) 21:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'll remove the image now. A. Parrot (talk) 23:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious: "An alternative phonetic spelling used the phonogram nn"[edit]

The cited source is Budge's dictionary which is a bit outdated and not the most reliable source to begin with, but anyway, I checked pages 349-354 and I might just be missing it but I don't see any nn spelling anywhere. On page 354 there is an entry for a different god named "Nunun" (which Budge takes to be "a form of Ḥeru-ur or Shu") and there's also an entry for the word "nun" ("to roam about"), but that's all I see. Now Wiktionary does list a noun nnw ("inertness") which is written using the

hieroglyph ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nnw ), but this is a homonym, not an alternative spelling of the name of the god or of the primeval waters. 73.133.224.40 (talk) 21:32, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]