Talk:New Zealand mud snail

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How long?[edit]

The article says "the New Zealand mud snail (Potamopyrgus antipodarum) is a small freshwater snail, 1-2mm in length". Really? First site I googled said they grew 11 to 12 mm in the USA. Any experts here? Moriori 04:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some US sites with pictures showing their size: [1] [2] [3] [4]. I'd say 1-2mm sounds right. -- Avenue 04:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can't argue with those pics, but still have a niggle after viewing this. Cheers. Moriori 05:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I should have read the text of #2 and #3 more carefully; they say 5 mm and 1/4 inch (6 mm). This agrees with your link, but doesn't seem to be reflected in the photos. Maybe the typical size is much smaller than the maximum. -- Avenue 08:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with New Zealand Mudsnail[edit]

It seems pretty clear these articles should be merged, but what's the best title? Spacing in the name seems to vary (e.g. mudsnail [5] [6], mud snail [7] [8]). -- Avenue 19:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, well if that don't beat all, three articles on the same subject! Please excuse my sloppiness in not doing a complete search - google obviously wasn't giving any Wikipedia links to "mudsnail", and I didn't find it in any of the likely categories. As to which name is preferable, I can't find any express preference in online sources. (Species2000 even gives its name as "Jenkins spire shell"). I prefer to use the ISSG source as a baseline and go with mudsnail, but then I'm biased as I wrote that version of the article! On a related note, I notice that the taxonomies are different - most of the databases I've checked indicate that Neotaenioglossa is the appropriate Order. The picture is certainly a duplicate, and I'll go speedy the newer one now... Ziggurat 20:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mud snail please, as in New Zealand mud snail for the heading. "Mud snail" gets 767, 000 google hits. "Mudsnail" gets 21,400. Moriori 23:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a convention for capitalisation? I notice that NZ animals split both ways, with a strong tendency to capitalize (New Zealand flatworm vs. New Zealand Fur Seal, New Zealand Sea Lion, New Zealand Pelican, New Zealand Swan, New Zealand Raven). Ziggurat 23:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC) edit to add: the closest I could find is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)#Capitalization of common names of species, which is less than definitive although it gives a good rationalisation for capitalization. Ziggurat 23:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Given that there's more than one "mud snail" from New Zealand, this strengthens the argument for capitalising the name (to make it clear we are talking about a particular species). -- Avenue 03:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A merge to New Zealand Mud Snail then? I have no problems with that. Ziggurat 03:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Avenue makes a good point. Proper names should always be capped IMMHO. Merge away. Moriori
Sounds good. I'll move this article to the new title (because this one has a longer history) and we can merge in the info from New Zealand Mudsnail. -- Avenue 03:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've merged the two articles, although some trimming is probably still needed to avoid repetition. More referencing would be useful too. -- Avenue 16:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ordering of text[edit]

I would be tempted to put the fairly large section about the snail in the USA and some other places under the heading 'invasive species' or something like that. Most of the paragraph on distribution has more to do with how the snail is dispersed as oppose to where it is found. I would leave a small summary of the snail's distribution under the 'distribution' heading, and put the 'invasive species' heading after ecology. Wise zoologist (talk) 11:43, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting Truncatelloidea superfamily[edit]

The superfamily was changed to Truncatelloidea, based on a 2013 study. It is accepted by WoRMS:

  • Gofas, S. (2013). "Potamopyrgus antipodarum (J.E. Gray, 1843)". World Register of Marine Species. Retrieved 2014-03-29.

However, Wikipedia:WikiProject Gastropods says in the infobox above to rely on Taxonomy of the Gastropoda (Bouchet & Rocroi, 2005) and Changes in the taxonomy of gastropods since 2005. I'd try to have the "Changes..." page updated before changing species classifications. Agyle (talk) 18:53, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Truncatelloidea per Criscione & Ponder 2013 is correct. --Snek01 (talk) 23:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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