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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Destroyeraa (talk · contribs) 01:47, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the multi-day delay. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 03:01, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Source 2 - capitalize "Overview" in the title parameter. Done
Source 89 - "NJDOT begins construction on the Route 13 Inland Waterway Canal Bridge in Point Pleasant Boro". Capitalize Begins and Construction. Title case. Done

Otherwise, a quick scan of all the sources find no problems. The sources and references are all good. ✓ Pass. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 20:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lede[edit]

I'll do the sources last since you might add more.

link state highway. Done
and a distinct part of Bridge Avenue - How is it distinct? Fixed wording
You should probably elaborate more on the bridge's history in the lead section. Most of the article is about the bridge, since the highway itself is so short. Done
- Yeah, that's better. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:34, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 02:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Route description[edit]

The straight line diagram should also be a source in this section Done
There, Route 13 begins a curve to the northeast onto the Lovelandtown Bridge approach, crossing some dead-end local roads and a marina - Route 13 never intersects the roads. It should be something like There, Route 13 begins a curve to the northeast onto the Lovelandtown Bridge approach, passing a marina... Done
and heading onto the lift bridge. - add a name to the bridge. Something like and heading onto the Lovelandtown life bridge. Done
The bridge soon re-enters land, where it parallels... → After crossing the canal, Route 13 parallels... Done
Is CR 632 concurrent with Route 13 for the entire route? ~ Destroyeraa🌀 03:01, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Needforspeed888 (talk • contribs)
  - @Needforspeed888: You should probably add that CR 632 is concurrent with Rt 13 for its entire route. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:35, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Done[reply]

History[edit]

Designation[edit]

Originally, the bridge over the Point Pleasant Canal, the Lovelandtown Bridge, was constructed in 1929, for a continuous route above Bridge Avenue. - Remove the bridge over the Point Pleasant Canal, since we knew it traveled over the canal the section prior. Also, for a continuous route above Bridge Avenue sound weird. How can a bridge be above a road when it is above a canal? Also, replace for with as. Done
Remove The designation of in the second sentence. Done
the extension - to where? Route 37? Done
From what I know about NJ roads, NJ 37 is >10 miles away from NJ 13. Was it Old route 37? Done~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the 1953 renumbering, the state dropped the suffix and renumbered the bridge and its approaches to Route 13. Replace to with as. Done~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also, replace produced with constructed. Done ~ Destroyeraa🌀 19:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bridge rebuild[edit]

especially for vehicles such as school buses - link school buses. Done
The State Highway Department considered a new tunnel for Route 13, but quickly discarded the idea by October, though Beecroft would bring it up again as an option if there were a hearing. Why did they discard the idea? Was there a hearing? Done
However, this plan was opposed by Assemblyman William T. Hiering, a Republican from Ocean County who asked the United States Army Corps of Engineers to hold a public hearing on such a bridge; this hearing would occur on December 27. Why did he oppose? Done
Source tidbit: Source 13 also supports the above sentence. Done
The delay in action was being slammed by the borough of Point Pleasant by December 1964. - some clarification needed. Did the borough slam the DOT for the delay in action or did the borough cause the delay in action? Done

Added pressure[edit]

More complaints came from higher officials in September 1965, when a resident of Fair Lawn drove off the Lovelandtown Bridge and died. Put temporary before Lovelandtown Bridge, since this was the temporary bridge.~ DoneDestroyeraa🌀 15:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
State Senator Wayne Dumont who, along. Add a comma before who. Done
New Jersey State Senate redirects to New Jersey Senate. You linked it when you said State Senator. Done
The driver's death sparked the attention of State Senator Wayne Dumont, who, along with Point Pleasant Mayor Walter B. Brown, pressured Governor Richard J. Hughes to speed up construction of the bridge, deemed a traffic hazard. → The driver's death sparked the attention of State Senator Wayne Dumont and Point Pleasant Mayor Walter B. Brown; they deemed the bridge a traffic hazard and pressured Governor Richard J. Hughes to speed up construction. Grammar. Done
New Jersey State Conservation Department - link New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection. Done
Chief Beecroft, who previously wanted a tunnel crossing, noted buses were taken off the structure for safety.. Did he take buses off the temporary structure, or did he want to take buses off the new bridge? Done
By December 3, Point Pleasant wanted to meet on December 16. Remove what they wanted - put what they actually did. Done ~ Destroyeraa🌀 19:48, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Design and funding problems[edit]

For Department of Transportation, you can abbreviate it as DOT. For example, for the first occurrence, put New Jersey Department of Transportation (NJDOT). Then, replace all The Department of Transportation in the article with NJDOT. Done

Opening and bridge failure[edit]

Remove this sentence: This time it would be waiting until the Spring of 1972 to open the new bridge. Change this sentence: However, just four days later, they announced a new delay, this time because of a delay of the electronic controls for the new bridge. to However, just four days later, they announced a new delay to the Spring of 1972 due to an issue with the electronic controls for the new bridge. Done
In late March, they announced they - wording. In late March, NJDOT announced that they... Done
They were hoping for an April opening for the new bridge.[74] These tests occurred throughout April and the expectation in late April was that the bridge could open any day. → Testing continued through April, and NJDOT expected the bridge to open later that month. Done
The ceremony occurred on time with numerous dignitaries in presence → Numerous dignitaries attended the ceremony. "On time" is redundant and unnecessary. Done
This time, the new span needed to have its opening mechanisms adjusted → The new span needed its opening mechanisms adjusted. Some redundancies. Done
Remove Corrections were being made immediately, but still required the structure being closed.[79] However, by June 27, it was announced that these adjustments would take at least another 30 days to complete.[80] Too much information about the fixes. Done
and detours via the old bridge. → ;detours were conducted through the old bridge. Done

Modernization[edit]

Structurally, Route 13 underwent a rehabilitation on the bridge and its approaches in October 2004. → The Loveland Bridge and its approaches underwent a structural rehabilitation in October 2004. Done
I would like to see some expansion of this section. What work was done? ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I expanded it. Needforspeed888 (talk) 16:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Final[edit]

@Needforspeed888: I found no other issues. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Result

Well-written:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (prose)	There were some wording and grammar issues, but those have been fixed. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass
(b) (MoS)	See above. Article now complies with the MoS. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass

Verifiable with no original research:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (references)	The references were very well listed. Nothing wrong with the references except a few placing errors. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass
(b) (citations to reliable sources)	The references for the article all were to reliable sources. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass
(c) (original research)	There was no original research present. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass
(d) (copyvio and plagiarism)	There were no copyright violations or plagiarism. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass

Broad in its coverage:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (major aspects)	Some places were a bit light on information; those places have now been expanded. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass
(b) (focused)	A few places were too detailed; those have been removed. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Notes	Result
There were not issues with neutrality. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Notes	Result
No edit wars that I know of. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales)	All images are appropriate and are fair-use. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass
(b) (appropriate use with suitable captions)	Captions are suitable. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Pass

Result	Notes
Pass	After a long and extensive review, I believe that this article now meets the requirements of good article status, and I am thus passing this article. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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