Talk:Nancy Blackett

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Did you know... that Arthur Ransome's fictional pirate Nancy Blackett, captain of the Amazon, does not use her real name Ruth because "Amazons are ruthless"?

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Ruth[edit]

It was revealed in "The Picts and the Martyrs" that her name is actually Ruth, but she adopted the name Nancy when her Uncle Jim (aka Captain Flint) pointed out that pirates should be ruthless. This ought to be mentioned, but I don't know where the best place to put it is, or if simply citing the book is sufficient.--78.149.162.219 (talk) 00:59, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could well go in, but from Swallows and Amazons. Peggy gives the information away during their first parley. --Old Moonraker (talk) 05:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Popped it in there, seems like a useful tidbit. Is it worth mentioning that although Nancy is a nickname, it's unusual for the period? Girls, especially tomboys, in fiction of this period usually had masculine nicknames (think George of the Famous Five, but try picking up any girls' boarding school novel of the era - Toms, Lawries, and Freds left right and centre.) By contrast Nancy is a super-feminine name (and "nancy-boy" meant much the same thing then as it does now.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.111.142 (talk) 03:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just RV having "Ruth" in the lead, but am now having second thoughts—I was confused by the recent name change and believed I was removing it from the lede of Nancy Blackett (cutter). Apologies to the IP contributor. Views, particularly about the word order, please? --Old Moonraker (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Primary topic discussion[edit]

Please see Talk:Nancy Blackett#Primary topic? for the discussion. decltype (talk) 06:44, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Talk archives[edit]

We need to recover the old Talk pages (Talk:Nancy Blackett (character) ) which had extensive discussions about the subject. Whoever renamed the article left them behind. Dabbler (talk) 11:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have merged this page (and its history) with Talk:Nancy Blackett (character). Let me know if something is amiss, and sorry for the inconvenience caused. Regards, decltype (talk) 11:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revised article for character[edit]

Retagged as WP Children'sLiterature. See earlier discussion about page content at Talk:Nancy Blackett (cutter). --Mervyn (talk) 13:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An Observation[edit]

Though Nancy is undoubtedly the strongest character amongst all the children in Ransome's books, it is notable that in their competition for leadership (in Swallows and Amazons) it is the male-led Swallows who prevail. (Though of course this is only achieved by Titty's cunning.) Similarly it is the pragmatic Dick Callum rather than his older sister Dorothea who always assumes leadership of the D's. Ransome seems disinclined to give titular leadership to a girl even when her age and/or disposition seems to warrant it.

Fancruft of the worst kind[edit]

It demeans Wikipedia that such an article could continue to exist.

- No other characters in the series have their own article - why should this one exist? - Ransome was an objectively awful writer, aware of a mere 4 adjectives. 'Worse' Russian writers from the C19th have no individual article. - The article is tantamount to fan fiction and myopic sycophancy. Reasons previously given for non-deletion are not satisfactory. - does Jim Dixon have his own article? Or are you suggesting that Ransome, by virtue of your own patronage, is objectively superior to Kingsley Amis? How about we make articles for all of Rowling's transparent aberrations? - Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.179.247 (talk) 19:08, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DNFTT Dabbler (talk) 21:55, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hardly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.179.247 (talk) 18:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]