Talk:Naengmyeon

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Korean Dish?[edit]

is it a korean dish or Chinese dish,i saw naengmyeon is ubiquitous in China even in the winter! 222.182.250.71 (talk) 05:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--> Am working on rephrasing the whole article and will keep that in mind. As you say, different types of naengmyeon are eaten in Asia; China has their own version. This article is only dealing with the Korean type. Nuyos (talk) 03:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling in box[edit]

Why do two of the spellings in the box end in the letter "g"? I think this is wrong because the hangul spelling ends in "n." Badagnani 08:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. It's been fixed. --Zonath 15:25, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Naengmyeon and memil guksu[edit]

What is the difference between naengmyeon and memil guksu? Badagnani 19:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I found a photo of memil guksu -- looks exactly like soba. Badagnani 19:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A friend tells me that soba is likely to have more buckwheat inside; consequently the feel of the noodles is different; memil is more likely to be darker and finally, the dipping sauce is sweet in Korea but salty in Japan. --Kjoonlee 02:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is 칡?[edit]

I'm confused. Trying to find info on 칡. In Naver dictionary, 칡 is arrowroot, but the article says kudzu. I think naver might be right, but the drink doesn't seem starchy enough. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.144.169.93 (talk • contribs)

A Google search shows that the term may refer to either Maranta or Pueraria. Badagnani (talk) 02:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arrowroot is a common error in Korean/Japanese translations. It is kudzu; you can check by searching for "칡 학명" to look for the binomial name of the plant, and double-check. --Kjoonlee 02:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We're not looking for the species name but for the meaning(s) of the generic term 칡, which, as mentioned above, a Google search presents not only as both "arrowroot" and "kudzu," but in fact as both the species Maranta and Pueraria. Badagnani (talk) 02:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the difference. Anyway, arrowroot is known as maranta in Korea, since it is not native to Korea. --Kjoonlee 02:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The difference between what? They're entirely different genera, which are both used to produce very similar white powders that are used in cooking for thickening purposes. Badagnani (talk) 02:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Difference between looking for the species name and the meaning(s) of the generic term 칡. --Kjoonlee 02:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is because, in many languages, several species (or even genera) may be lumped together under a single common name. Badagnani (talk) 02:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can assure you that this is not the case. You might have been thrown off guard because "칡가루" is made from plants other than "칡", but that's a different matter. --Kjoonlee 02:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The naver or any Korean-English dictionary are not keen to species name. For the next time, if you want to know the binominal name of whatever species, try to google the key word like "칡 학명". Then, you will see relevant web links. Besides, you should carefully confirm on whether the species' name refers to only one, several subspecies or cultivars like 칡과, 칡목. Anyway, according to a credible site (농업과학기술원) its name is "Pueraria thunbergiana (Sieb. et Zucc.) Bentham" and there are many other names as well. Kuduzu is a common name for the species. FYI, you would not trust Wikipedia unless the contents have citations from reliable source.--Caspian blue (talk) 02:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That just leaves this search result to be explained, then. Badagnani (talk) 02:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Common errors, I tell you. --Kjoonlee 02:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, then, what is the Korean common name for arrowroot? Badagnani (talk) 02:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maranta, as I have written above. --Kjoonlee 02:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are words like 칡뿌리 and 칡넝쿨 (칡+덩쿨) and 갈등 which show that kudzu is very familiar to Koreans. Arrowroot isn't, and it's known as kudzuukon in Japan as well. --Kjoonlee 02:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

칡 is not starchy. However, it is not used as the noodle base. It is added for flavor and coloring... It's very delicious. :P

To anon, for a actual advice for searching binominal name, you could search 칡 in all dictionaries setting http://alldic.empas.com/ Emaps provides not only info from two credible encyclopedia (EncyKorea and Britannica) but also all encompassing dictionaries such as Koeran, Korean-English, English-English, and other useful dictionaries. Then I easily found Pueraria thunbergiana BENTH with the setting.--Caspian blue (talk) 02:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pears?[edit]

The article says pears are included. I have never had pears in either pibim- nor mul-. At best, this should be worded as an optional ingredient. Kdammers (talk) 10:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 November 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 07:36, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Naengmyeon → Raengmyeon – Since the dish originated in what is now North Korea, the title should use the North Korean romanization. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 09:15, 26 November 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:15, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note this is romanized as Raengmyon according to the North Korean romanization. Sawol (talk) 12:36, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:MOS-KO and WP:NC-KO. Raengmyon too. Sawol (talk) 03:29, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, per "There are cases in which the romanization differs from the common name used in English sources. As this is the English-speaking Wikipedia, use the name most common in English sources. For instance, Taekwondo is romanized as Taegwondo (RR) or T'aegwŏndo (MR), but uses the English spelling." in WP:MOS-KO. It is quite evident that "Naeng" is most popular. (while the interface is Korean-only, the last 854000 vs 4290 is Google which can be used to determine which is more commonly used.) — regards, Revi 03:34, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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