Talk:Murders of Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman

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There is some overlap of the content of this page and that of their mother, but in order for Nicole and Bibaa's story to be told I think they warrant their own page as people may search for their names.Melissa Highton (talk) 20:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion[edit]

I think these murders are notable because they had lasting consequences for discussions of women's safety in London (and UK) particularly in relation to lockdown, race and policing. These murders received significant non-routine coverage that persists over a period of time particularly in relation to other murders such as Sarah Everard and Sabina Nessa. Coverage is in multiple reliable sources with national scope. The topic of this article is "worthy of notice" because it is significantly different and unusual ( due to the circumstances, coverage and impact) to the other many, many, murders of women which do not get wikipedia pages. It is also notable in the sense of being "famous" as seen in the coverage.Melissa Highton (talk) 11:40, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree I very much support @Melissa Highton:'s views on the incident's notability. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 21:15, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Section on political demographics of satanism[edit]

There are repetitive claims added to the section on the murderer’s motivations that state that a minority of satanists are non-violent, and a minority hold far right views. This may or may not be true, but such special pleading seems out of place and irrelevant to this article, and the sources cited verifying these claims also do not seem to be relevant. Suggest delete? CeeBeesDubs (talk) 08:53, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An earlier version of the article didn't mention that most Satanists are non violent and not far-right. This earlier version could give the false impression that all/most Satanists are far-right and violent. I feel avoiding the false impression is important. Proxima Centauri (talk) 10:17, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not in the mood to edit war but - in words I never thought I'd say - nobody is saying "all Satanists". Nobody has edited Wikipedia to plead "not all policemen" or "not all Pakistani fathers", nor would any reasonable reader read the linked articles and believe that all of those demographic killed women. Unknown Temptation (talk) 12:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Smallman year of birth[edit]

Was she born in 1992 or 1993? Lede says 1992 but infobox says 1993. Sadustu Tau (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]