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Question as to whether the last paragarph under History regarding Global Warming was intentionally added and whether this respesents the facts.

The entry read as follows:

The Manx Airline has also become embroiled with the controversial expansion plans at Gloucestershire (Staverton) Airport by publically endorsing the expansion proposals, despite this leading to increased greenhouse gas emisssions at a time when the IPCC report [1] has highlighted the extremely high risk of runaway global warming. In response to pressure from environmentalists, Gloucestershire airport produced a document[2] which denied and ridiculed the whole science of global warming in their attempts to gain support. Their scurrilous behaviour has been likened to the moral equivalence of holocaust denial. It has led to planned protests against the airport, see http://www.myspace.com/campofhope and http://campforhopeatstaverton.blogspot.com/

Suggest that this has nothing to do with Manx2 but with aviation in general and suggest its removal from the Manx2 data. What Staverton does with its airport is a matter for the Gloucestershire County Council. Manx2, being one of many airplanes and airlines that fly to this airport, is not to be regarded as individually "embroilled" by virtue of the fact that it makes use of the facility. The above arguments are more appropriate for large jets from London airports and not "dinky toy" jets from the Isle of Man. Suggest the global warming mode be directed to China, India and the USA first as they belch out of their factories more emissions per minute than all British airliners in a year. Garigolf 04.10 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Virtual Commuter Airline[edit]

I have not been able to find a definition of this term outside of hobby and flight simulation enthusiasts - see Wikipedia Virtual Airline. There seems to be some contention that this company is not an actual airline, but operates as a ticketing agent. Yet, there are aircraft flying with their livery, and news stories by the BBC[3] and others[4],[5] refer to the company as an Airline. I understand that news agencies can get basic facts wrong, but is there some verifiable criteria we can use to settle this so we can avoid the back and forth reversions. Thanks! SeaphotoTalk 19:17, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not licenced as an airline [6][7][8] all the flights are operated under the licences of other operators some of the aircraft are foreign registered (some of the airlines that operate the flights are Hungarian, Spanish and German). Just having your name painted on an aircraft does not make it an airline. I used the term virtual airline to recognise that the company tries to give the impression it is a licenced airline (although it doesnt appear to use the term "Airline" on its website. Their website has on every page Our flights are operated by VanAir Europe AS, FLM Aviation, Flightlinebcn & Jetstream Executive If your read the legal bit Manx2 Ltd. is providing your tickets for this flight booking. We proudly claim to offer great service at competitive prices, and we are constantly looking at ways in which we can improve our service.On behalf of Manx2, Van Air Europe As will be the main operator for flights from the Isle of Man to Blackpool, Belfast City, Galway, Newcastle and Leeds; also between Belfast City & Galway, and Galway to Cork. FLM Aviation will be the main operator for flights from the Isle of Man to Gloucestershire Airport and Cardiff to Anglesey. Flightline BCN will be the main operator for flights from Belfast City to Cork. and also in the legal small print “Manx2” or “Manx2.com” means Manx2 Ltd. who is the provider of your tickets for this flight.. Also it says The following conditions apply to all carriage of passengers by our operators: our operators means it is not the operator. It is just a ticket broker hence the term virtual airline, happy to change it to ticket broker or ticket agent but it is not an airline. MilborneOne (talk) 21:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that I am not saying the company is doing anything wrong all the flights are flown legally by other operators. Similar operations are Palmair and Varsity Express. MilborneOne (talk) 21:22, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good points. They do call themselves an airline here [9] and like you say, they are trying mightily to give them impression they are an airline (talking about "our aircraft" etc). But the lack of listing on the UK Transport website is compelling. It may be they are heading in the direction of a standalone airline, but they are not there yet. SeaphotoTalk 22:13, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The user Hunterda expressed some of his opinions here. Regards.” TeLeS (T @ L C S) 04:04, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The airline is and will remain a small one. Adding detail to their fleet shouldn't be an issue. The editor stated that aircraft aren't "normally" listed and not "ever" listed. A decisive view either way should be obtained prior to just deleting amenmdents — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.79.101 (talk) 14:51, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • The report by the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit into the fatal accident at Cork in 2011 shows that much of the information suggesting that it operated as an airline is incorrect - it was only a ticketing agent (describing itself as a marketing group) and had already been warned by the UK authorities to cease suggesting otherwise. Other information in the article was also incorrect as regards the position at February 2011. --AJHingston (talk) 14:57, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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