Talk:Mamoru Takuma

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Sources[edit]

Are there any sources cited for this article? --malber 01:23, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Japanese wiki article for the crime has a link to [1] (in Japanese) which is a quite extensive listing of everything about him gathered from media published sources. Everything in this article is probably covered there. There is no and will never be the corresponding article in Japanese Wikipedia since there were several rulings in court that ruled protection of privacy can be more important then media's right to report. --Revth 02:23, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Can you summarize the rulings in question? I was rather surprised to find that the Japanese Wikipedia article doesn't even mention the guy's name, even though he's been found guilty with overwhelming evidence. Jpatokal 07:40, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Those sources should be cited here as well. Wikipedia should not cite itself as a source. --malber 02:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a couple of direct links to Japanese coverage for the quotes cited in the article. Here's is the Kyodo News (the largest Japanese news agency) archive for June 2001, which is pretty much all about this case, but unfortunately the English-language archives are not available online. Jpatokal 07:40, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a couple links. The link from kyodo news is still 404. It seems all the news articles about this situation have since disappeared. The link I put for the quote in Japanese (and sufficiently for the translations) is a terrible reference. It's some Japanese blog which is supposedly referenced from a news article. No one can be sure about that. But I put it anyways and kept the fact tag. Jonmwang 04:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The source for Takuma's psychological profile (http://www004.upp.so-net.ne.jp/kuhiwo/takmar.html) does not have a single link (I have clicked through all of them) that leads to a source backing up the psych information that it reports, or that is reported in the wikipedia article. The website's links that do lead to something other than a "source not found" page mention information that does not appear to be connected to Takuma. This source does not meet wikipedia guidelines for reliable sources (it is self-published, has no editorial review, and does not cite any of the information being reported in this wikipedia page), and the information it supports should be removed until a reliable source can be found. Firecatalta (talk) 20:39, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"cn" for transcription[edit]

The romaji transcription of Takuma's sourced Japanese statement was flagged with {{cn}}. This feels rather absurd -- anybody who knows Hepburn romanization can confirm that my transcription is, indeed, correct -- so I've removed it. Jpatokal 11:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rape conviction[edit]

The Japan Times article [2] says that he sat out his sentence for rape in a mental hospital, but the Japanese WP doesn't mention this:

結果、強姦事件では3年の実刑判決を受け、父親からは勘当される。伊丹市職員となるのは刑期満了で出所してから1,2年後のことだった。

Who's right? Jpatokal (talk) 05:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He entered a mental hospital, but was later sentenced to three years in prison. According to [3]
宅間、詐病失敗。(Takuma failed malingering.)
--ACSE (talk) 06:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Translation in paper vs actual meaning[edit]

So this is interesting. The Lubbock Avalanche-Journal via Knight-Ridder translates 捕まえて死刑にしてほしかった as "Give me a death sentence", but the original actually says "I wanted to be caught and given an death sentence", which is quite different. However, I can't find a source for the accurate translation, as all Western news sites just seem to parrot the original wire agency copy. What to do? Jpatokal (talk) 07:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This source is unreliable[edit]

Hi all! As mentioned previously, the following source is not reliable by wikipedia standards for reliable sources: there is no editorial oversight, and the majority of the links to support its information lead to error pages. All information based upon this source should be removed from this article, and this source should not be used in the future.

The source in question: http://www004.upp.so-net.ne.jp/kuhiwo/takmar.html

Thanks, Firecatalta (talk) 17:25, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Info from unreliable source[edit]

The following info was supported by the highly unreliable source discussed above. It has been removed from the article for storage here on the talk page until reliable sources for this information can be found. Firecatalta (talk) 17:31, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Mamoru Takuma was born in Itami, Japan. From an early age Takuma had exhibited symptoms of the Macdonald triad. At the age of 12 Takuma had wrapped a kitten in newspaper and set fire to it killing the kitten. He continued killing cats throughout his teenage years, throwing them into furnaces. During Takuma's sophomore year of high school he had reportedly attacked a teacher and ran away from home for months. Takuma dropped out of high school and gotten into a physical confrontation with his father. His father sought psychiatric help for his son after he had beaten him; but the hospital refused, his father later disowned him. He entered the Japan Air Self Defense Force but was soon discharged due to having sexual intercourse with a minor. In 1984, Takuma and his mother left his family house and purchased an apartment leaving his oldest brother and father by themselves. They lived together for a year and a half, until his father came back for his wife. [1]

Takuma had also been arrested for driving his car in reverse on the Hanshin Expressway and had been released after found mentally unfit. He had been arrested at least eleven times and had married four times before the massacre. After his release from jail, he moved to Ikeda and found work as a bus and garbage truck driver. He was described by coworkers as a quiet and unremarkable man, but a bit of a loner who did not like dealing with customers and preferred working alone. [2]

After assaulting a passenger over the smell of her perfume in 1998, he was fired and got a new job as maintenance man at Itami Elementary School, 6 kilometers away from Ikeda. In October of the same year, he was arrested on suspicion of assaulting his former wife.

On March 3, 1999, he dissolved some of his own tranquilizer, temazepam, into the tea served in the teachers' room, sending 4 people to the hospital. He was arrested and sent to a psychiatric hospital, where he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. He had jumped from the roof of the psychiatric hospital in an attempt to commit suicide but had failed. After one month's treatment was judged to be "capable of taking care of himself."

After his release from the psychiatric hospital he still continued displaying odd behavior, stating that he was a survivor of the Japan Airlines Flight 123 crash. [3]In November 1999, he was arrested on suspicion of entering into a private home, but the charges were dropped. He managed to get a job as a taxi driver in September 2000, but was fired on October 16 after he assaulted a hotel bellhop in Osaka and broke his nose. He was also kicked out of several apartments for, among other things, throwing his garbage out from the balcony. On May 23, 2001, he voluntarily admitted himself into a psychiatric hospital for depression, but left the next day without treatment.

References

  1. ^ "宅間守資料" (in Japanese). Retrieved 2008-03-09.
  2. ^ "宅間守資料" (in Japanese). Retrieved 2008-03-09.
  3. ^ "宅間守資料" (in Japanese). Retrieved 2008-03-09.

Sourceless info[edit]

The source for this info does not exist (or no longer exists). Info will be stored here until a reliable source can be found. Thanks, Firecatalta (talk) 17:37, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He was ejected from the court before the sentence because he kept verbally insulting the victims and the victims' parents.[1]

References

  1. ^ "不規則発言し退廷命令" (in Japanese). 47 News. Retrieved 2008-06-08.

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