Talk:M. Athalie Range

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Did you know... that M. Athalie Range was the first black since Reconstruction and the first woman to head a state agency in Florida?

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Grandparents[edit]

Her maternal grandmother and her paternal grandparents were certainly from the Bahamas.

Her maternal grandfather (an unknown Schultz) was noted in two censuses as being of German descent but possibly also from the Bahamas as one record says 'Bahamas German' and is crossed out and replaced with West Indies. ash (talk) 03:29, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ashlar: has this been mentioned in any reliable secondary published sources? Although this would not likely be a contentious point, citing census forms for this could be regarded as original research and challenged. - Donald Albury 16:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Donald Albury: People didn't fill out forms like they do today - back in 1910, the census enumerator wrote down the information provided by one member of the household, who is indicated on the census using a symbol. The 1910 census information originated with the mother - she was the primary source. The 1910 census is a secondary source and is published and available online at a number of places. The statement that all of her grandparents were Bahamian (which I'm not disputing) likely originated with the family. So the secondary source of that information is likely not very reliable anyway. Also, note I didn't change the article, so I'm not citing anything. I am simply indicating for interested parties (and until more evidence can be found) that her maternal grandfather is listed alternatively as "German" and as "Bahamas German". Moreover Schultz is not a traditionally Bahamian name. When I have sufficient evidence, I will change the article and cite the source. ash (talk) 08:52, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]