Talk:Louis de Gruuthuse

This article was nominated for deletion on April 8, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

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I think I will move this page to Lewis de Bruges as that seems to be the name used in English. Piet 08:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aargh. Why move the page when there is a discussion open here? Birth name has nothing to do with the location of the article. If it is common in English to call this man Blackadder, then that's where he will be. Furthermore you claim that "Loys of Gruuthuse" is the English name and "Lewis de Bruges" French, that is false, Lewis de Bruges is the English name and the French name will probably be Louis de Bruges. Piet 16:38, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis de Bruges is currently a redirect to Loys of Gruuthuse. Looks like we could do with a mutually constructive merge here, no? --Estarriol ^talk 22:58, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, looks like Loys has been redirected here. Why? Is Lodewijk the most commonly-referenced name? :Confused: --Estarriol ^talk 23:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation for newcomers: the article was at Loys of Gruuthuse, although it appeared the most commonly referenced name was Lewis de Bruges. So I proposed a move here at the talk page and just after that someone moved it to Lodewijk van Gruuthuse saying "that was his birth name". I intend to move it to Lewis de Bruges anyway. There is afaik no need for a merge, but the redirects may have to be cleaned up. Piet 06:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks... yes, it definitely belongs under the most commonly referenced name. This holds true for historical characters as much as Marilyn Monroe. --Estarriol ^talk 09:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved it to Lewis. The poor man must be getting seasick. Piet 08:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a pity no one above says where all these common references are! Personally, I have only ever seen "Louis of Gruuthuse" used in modern (art history) books in English, for example in:

National Gallery Catalogues: The Fifteenth Century Netherlandish Paintings, Lorne Campbell, 1998, ISBN 185709171
T Kren & S McKendrick (eds), Illuminating the Renaissance - The Triumph of Flemish Manuscript Painting in Europe, Getty Museum/Royal Academy of Arts, 2003, ISBN 19033973287

Johnbod 00:00, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]