Talk:List of mythological pairs

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Criteria for inclusion[edit]

This is a somewhat useful article for tracking down mythological lovers, especially, so I wouldn't want for it to disappear. It could easily become overbroad, though. Minimal criteria should be what? A decent number of results for a quoted google search for "X and Y" / "Y and X" and an existing article or dab describing the pair?

Possibly we should split off/remove the merely legendary elements (Grimms' tales; Arthur). Certainly, it should describe the actual mythologies involved and not merely later creations (e.g., the 19th century works on Pelleas having nothing to do with his original story). — $Llywelyn II$ 04:18, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo and Hyacinth vs Apollo and "Xandra"[edit]

I have just undone an edit from an anon user, who removed Hyacinth from the "Apollo and Hyacinth" pairing in the Lovers section, to substitute him with an obscure "Xandra" (linked to the disambiguation page). Since I had no idea who this Xandra could be in Greek myths and since the articles in the disambiguation page didn't help to shed light on this, I did some further research and found it could be a mispelling / alternate spelling for Cassandra. Now, there is a relation between Apollo and Cassandra, but I stand by my decision to revert that change, and I'm explaining my reasons here in the evntuality that someone disagrees.

1) The fact that "Apollo and Hyacinth" can be considered a lovers pairing is documented in their individual Wikipedia articles, which are both adequatly referenced. The myth is widely known and can be found in any decent encyclopedia or book about Greek mythology. Even if someone wanted to add "Apollo and Cassandra" (or "Apollo and Xandra" if anything like that has reason to stay in the list), this does not mean that "Apollo and Hyacinth" needs to be removed. No matter if someone may have problems with the notion that Greek male deities sometimes were lovers to male mortals.

2) "Apollo and Cassandra", nevertheless, can't really be considered a pair of "lovers". As it is, again, well known, and clearly written in the relative articles here on Wikipedia (again, well referenced), Cassandra was cursed with her profecies never being believed exactly because she refused to become Apollo's lover. As usual in Greek myths, there's different versions but all of them concurr on that point. The two never were lovers and, as such, they can't be included in that list. Exhululath (talk) 14:40, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo and Daphne[edit]

Should this pair stay in the "Lovers" section? In every version of the myth that I've been able to find, it was a one-sided affair. Daphne always refused Apollo's attentions, constantly fled from him and, when he was about to catch her (and, likely, take her forcefully / rape her), she asked some higher power for help and was, as a result, transformed in Laurel tree. Despite Apollo calling Daphne his "lover" in the works of some authors, all sources seem to be concordant on the fact that she never loved him. Exhululath (talk) 15:25, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]