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Missing yachts

Royal Norwegian Yacht KS Norge is missing. 80,5 meters. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/KS_%C2%ABNorge%C2%BB

-I Believe Andrey Melnichenko's yacht, "A", is missing from the list..? http://yachts.monacoeye.com/files/blohm_voss_970_a.php http://www.fvn.no/bilder/bildeserier/article595786.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.19.147.6 (talk) 12:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC) --certainly was missing, and this yacht is for real, I just saw it here in Gibraltar, it seems to be as fast as the catamaran ferries, added it at number 12, it was too quick to get a photo myself kokey (talk) 13:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

-- I have a picture of this yacht, how do i upload it? Thanks. Mitesh003 (talk) 12:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

- The Royal Danish Yacht "Dannebrog" measuring 78,4 meters should hold the 39 th place in the list Gibler (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

- The Siren, measuring 73 meters, should be on here as well : http://yachts.monacoeye.com/files/category-nobiskrug.php

== Deletion == I will be proposing this page for deletion as yacht names change very often, at the beck and call of ownership changes and refits and wives and children and mistresses and sports teams. There is no way this article can have any lifespan.--Tallard 12:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Upon further inspection, I realise that this is only for yachts over 70 m and hence these yachts' names have more longevity. However the 70 m detail should be in the first paragraph or the title as it's quite an arbitrary number.--Tallard 21:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Queen M is now called Queen K and it is owned by Oleg Deripaska. (83.143.248.21 (talk) 13:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC))

"Staatsyacht"

Helsinki 2008 217.140.172.251 (talk) 08:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Tonnage

The second sentence describes tonnage as "a measure of volume" and displacement as "a measure of weight". Shouldn't this be the other way around?

Yes, gross tonnage is a measure of capacity - it is used in commercial shipping to measure the volume that can be accommodated by cargo as opposed to how much weight the vessel can carry. It is a common misconception hence i thought it pertinent to this particular wiki-entry. In the yachting industry it is a much more important measure of the size of yachts and the work required in a build or refit.

81.133.30.82 (talk) 16:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Dannebrog owner

Just a doubt... is the Dannebrog owned by HM The Queen of Denmark herself or is it owned by the Danish State?

I'm asking this because it is posibly the same case as the Spanish Royal Yatch Fortuna. The King's Yatch "Fortuna" is of National wealth, forming part of the properties of the Spanish state agency Patrimonio Nacional (National Heritage). --MauritiusXXVII (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 16:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

As I understand it Dannebrog is similar to an English crown possession, i.e. the Monarch (or the Royal Court) owns it. It is not listed alongside various National Heritages, but rather as a part of Kongehuset (The Royal Court). See this link for more info. Mecil (talk) 19:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Length errors

Some of the lengths are inconsistent. For instance the Eclipse is listed at 508'11" (167.1) but the Dubai is 524'10" (160). How is the Dubai shorter in feet but longer in meters? Could someone check to see which is the right measurement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.188.199.11 (talk) 22:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Tonnage paragraph

Is there any point in having the section regarding tonnage and how some countries build bigger yachts than others? It seems irrelevent to the artical, which by the name is a list, and therefore not a definitive informational article about this sort of thing.

This article could probably progress to a Featured List in a very short time if that section was just removed as it smacks of POV.

Does anyone think it adds anything to the list? Miyagawa (talk) 15:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

'Price' column

Anyone else think it would be a good idea to add a 'price' column to this chart? I think it's another fact that many users like to see, and the statistics are readily available.

Nickf77 (talk) 20:46, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, what about a charter price column too? Mitesh003 (talk) 12:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

This would be a good idea, but most of the prices of these yachts are not known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack1472 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

number

28 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.96.53.106 (talk) 18:35, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Rank column removed

I removed the column which ranks the boats numerically. First, the ranking is not accurate (the two external links disagree with ours), and second, such a column makes it much more difficult to add a new yacht to the list ~ you'd have to manually renumber every older yacht below the one inserted. It also has the benefit of yielding a little more space, which can be used to add a column for references. At the moment sorting by length (which should give the same order) isn't working, but I'll sort that out ASAP. The default order when the page loads is still as before. Column sorting now functional. --DeLarge (talk) 02:13, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Longest yachts template?

Maybe someone would be interested in creating a template similar to this one about motor yachts - which one was the longest at which year. I'd be happy to help with information and research if someone takes up making the template itself - it's really boring to do such things alone. If you're interested, find me at my talk page. BadaBoom (talk) 11:08, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

200m+ LOA intro

@Skjoldbro: the introduction includes proposals (drawings and speculative price point if they were to be signed into a build contract) which should *not* be part of the encyclopedia. Reference shipyard orders (Boat International Media's 2016 global orderbook for example) to discuss upcoming projects. If growing sizes should be discussed in the introduction, why not discuss the Gross Tonnage of the recently launched Lürssen 156m project Omar / Dilbar II? Though undisclosed, it has been described as the largest GT in yachting history and could improve the introduction significantly. Delete the proposals themselves from the introduction-they have no place here. signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 22:58, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

The proposed Everest and Double Century gigayachts are both design to have a length of 200 m (660 ft). The design of an even larger yacht is also in full swing, which is covered under the name: Project Triple Deuce. It will be a yacht of 222 m (728 ft). The broker, who sold the yacht, expects that the yacht will be delivered in 2018. She will not only be the biggest yacht ever built, but also the most expensive with a cost of more than $1 billion.

Index layout

Most countries today are metric, so why would the table of contents (subdivision) only show in Imperial units? The table of contents would therefore also have to be in both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.232.76.218 (talk) 12:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

What is the use of the subsections? They donot split on mobile devices like sections do and they donot enable a full column sorting on the desktop. Obviously I am comparing this with the list of large sailing yachts where both Imperial and SI units are used (incidentally the single click to sort country+shipyard in that article is a useful feature in my view).
To answer your question I do think that using both units is useful signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 12:59, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Re WT:SHIPS#List_of_motor_yachts_by_length...
all rows are sourced from the yacht registers, no problem, except for 90% of the data in the owner column. (not private individuals, all companies registered in Island havens, herego untraceable ownership and ownership changes, except for a few owner or courthouse disclosures).
the image column is indeed sparsely populated and the small size does not work.
suggest removing both columns signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 14:03, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Sourcing

The issue of sourcing has been raised at WT:SHIPS. Therefore I propose the following - Vessels which have a linked article are includable in the list. Verification is possible by the linked article. Vessels which do not have a linked article (i.e. a redlink) need a reference. Said reference to be placed in first column. Any vessel not having either an article or reference on 1 May 2016 will be removed. Any vessel not having an article or reference, and which is added after 30 April 2016, will be removed.

Any objections? Mjroots (talk) 14:23, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

  • Support - sounds like a good way to clean-up this page. - theWOLFchild 14:29, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Sounds good to me, though ideally, we should eventually have citations for the vessels with articles too. Parsecboy (talk) 14:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Llammakey (talk) 16:20, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Support except to add that redlinked names that assert ownership where BLP applies must also reference that ownership, or entry will be changed to "Unknown". I assume that only current ownership is intended in this list. Davidships (talk) 20:51, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
  •  Question: As indicated on WT:SHIPS, the table in the articlepage presents a lot of blank cells: Shipowners are privately held companies (most flagstates are island havens) with untraceable private individual stakeholders and with untraceable ownership changes that cannot be sourced from public records, except for rare disclosures from the owners themselves (synfo/The Yacht Owner, BIM, or perhaps in certain cases from courthouse records). Can a reasonable proportion of the ownership column be populated and sourced in compliance with BLP? If not, should the column be kept? signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 08:46, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
I think that a reasonable proportion probably could be completed but, to be honest, the only way to know is to try! In many cases it will be a question of carrying over a cite from the yacht's article. On a different point, can a numerical ranking be re-instated, but of course automatically set as manual changes were rightly considered unacceptable? Davidships (talk) 13:18, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
The question of the owner column is interesting. Agree that there is a possible BLP issue here; but possibly there is no need for that column at all. If anyone wants to start a separate discussion re the need for it, please feel free to do so. Mjroots (talk) 17:56, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
I don't see populating the 'owner' column with info as an issue (BLP or otherwise), as long as the info is properly supported by WP:RS. However, if we find that very few cells in the column are populated, leaving most of them blank (or "unknown"), then it would probably be best to just do away with the column altogether. - theWOLFchild 17:22, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

clean up

Mjroots, Llammakey, Davidships, Donan.raven and anyone else;
I merged all the tables back into one, (it used to be that way). It's a cleaner look and it's easier to find specific boats. I added an additional "Note" column on the end to add refs to, then added all the refs through-out the table to that column. I then removed every entry that didn't have a ref or link to a parent article. I know we were going to wait until May 1st, but I have to ask, does anyone object to making this change now? All I see happening in the next month is more boats being added with no refs, no linked articles and very little info. Lemme know. - theWOLFchild 18:22, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I've got no problems with it. Thanks for doing it. Llammakey (talk) 18:52, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
No problems here either. Saved me a job. Mjroots (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
In my opinion, restoring the continous table as it was before is an improvement because the subsections were superfluous as the separate/split tables were all sorted by length anyway and because the continuous table makes the sortable option work for the whole article. There is still a major outstanding issue with sources, almost all of them verify nothing more than that which needs just one source, except for ownership. I motion that adding reliable sources verifying the ownership, like that for Symphony (2015), should be given top priority. signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 20:50, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. Over time I'll restore those for which I can find RS. Would I right to assume that the list is intended to include only active yachts? or existing yachts? or all motor yachts >60m (excluding therefore steam-powered/turbine yachts)? Davidships (talk) 09:42, 29 March 2016 (UTC) Also, as mentioned above, can an automatic numerical ranking be incorporated? Davidships (talk) 09:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Restoring all the removed yachts would be quite a task. There were 224 listed, and during the clean-up I removed 112, literally half the list. Personally, I think we should keep it to current/active yachts only. If you have a strong interest in past yachts, perhaps you could create a new a page, "Historical luxury yachts", (or something along those lines). If anything, I would like to see any effort here go towards the already existing entries; creating articles (or stubs at least) for the red-linked yachts, finding and adding photos (a big plus) and updating missing info, such as owners. Also, if any copywriters here are so inclined, maybe write a lead for the page. Cheers - theWOLFchild 13:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
That's fine. I don't have a particular mission, but do think that the top range (say, >100m) ought to be as complete as possible. I was about to put back the 121m Iraqi Al Mansur, but she was bombed in the war and since broken up, so I'll leave her out; I had also wondered about HMY Britannia, which exists though static, but is a turbine yacht. Hence the questions. Davidships (talk) 01:59, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Ranking

I've added this page to the (hidden) Category:Tables that may need a separate rank column. This list is an obvious contender and I would like to see a numerical ranking column added to the far left. That way, a reader could easily say that "Octopus" is number 16 or "Seven Seas" is number 44 on the list, without having to actually count. (Can anybody tell me what number "Predator" is? LOL! Does anybody want to?) - theWOLFchild 03:21, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Requests

Cost?

Could we please add a cost section? 78.146.137.190 (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I don't see a benefit to that. Too many yachts would be difficult to find the exact cost with reliable sourcing, meaning we'd have some cells with ridiculous ranges (ie: $60,000,000 to $150,000,000), plus we'd have some values in US dollars, some in Euros and some in pounds. And still most cells would probably end up as "unknown". It's not worth it. - theWOLFchild 22:00, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Owner check

Can we verify the owners? For example Azzam is reported to be owned by Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, but the owner is not mentioned in the link from the notes column or the confidently in the citations in its own article. Or Prince Abdulaziz is being listed in the table as owned by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (who is now deceased), but in its own article the only owners who are mentioned are King Fahd of Saudi Arabia (who is now deceased) and Prince Abdul Aziz bin Fahd. 78.146.137.190 (talk) 21:35, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

I'll start going through some of the sources and check the owners. Gimme a little while to get through the list. - theWOLFchild 22:00, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Notes column

Can we delete the notes column please? It appears to add no information which can't be gained from the articles that are listed. 78.146.137.190 (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

No, we just added it. We want all the entries to be sourced and having the extra dedicated column helps with that. It also keeps the table more organized. - theWOLFchild 22:00, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Red links

@ 78.146.137.190; Please don't remove the red links from the entries. Per WP:REDLINK they encourage article creation. If you don't link the red links, start creating some articles and turn them blue! - theWOLFchild 22:00, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild I'm sorry for the reversions, but I did multiple edits as well as the red links. When you reverted my edits they were reverted too. I was just trying to quickly restore the other changes, but thanks for clarifying the red link issue. 78.146.137.190 (talk) 22:59, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Once you're reverted, you don't re-revert again. Read WP:BRD. I went through your edits and most, if not all, were needless, hence the reason they were reverted. Now that you're on the talk page, this is your opportunity to explain them. We can discuss them and sort something out. Keep in mind that above I did say I was going through the entries, and I asked for some time to do that, so how about you allow me that? - theWOLFchild 23:04, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
@Thewolfchild: I'll allow you some time to do that then, but I'm sorry for being so hasty. 78.146.137.190 (talk) 23:06, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
OK, but did you want to explain some of the changes? For example, Oman already has "unknown" for the owner. Why are you blanking that with a hidden comment, demanding that owners must be sourced? It states that already at the top of the page. And why are you removing the titles of some of the royalty? That's couple of examples. Maybe you can explain the rest? - theWOLFchild 23:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
The change about Omar was to get rid of what was no information basically. I was changing the titles of some royalty so it was standardised among royalty. E.g. Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan isn't listed as Sheikh Khalifa, but Sultan Qaboos of Oman isn't referred to similarly as Qaboos of Oman. 78.146.137.190 (talk) 23:20, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
In that case, WP:COMMONNAME applies. There's a reason their articles are named a certain way, and that's how they should be listed here. Another issue I noticed is that you removed every instance of (yacht) from the entry name, ie: changing ''[[Bounty (yacht)|Bounty]]'' to just ''[[Bounty]]''. In the entries where that occurred, those are common names that are likely to have articles already, (several even), as other people. places and things will have the same name. Adding (yacht) is a disambiguator and it's necessary, so it has to stay. When and if those article get created, it will be needed. For an example; I just updated the page for the yacht "Dilbar", by page-moving it to it's new name "Ona". But I had to use Ona (yacht), because there is already another page called Ona. See? - theWOLFchild 23:36, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for the assistance. 78.146.137.190 (talk) 23:37, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Issue for discussion

The "exes"... A few of the entries had both the current name as well as a previous name (ie: MV Thewolfchild, ex-Eclipse). There was also an example of this among the owners (ie: Charter, ex-Richie Rich). I have boldly removed these as I basically think it's a bad idea. If we start, where does it end? Many of these yachts will change names over the course of there lives, some of them more than once. Are we supposed to chart and source all these names, then cram them into the table? Same for owners... these boats change hands, often. This is just a list after all, each yacht has it own page (or should have) and I think that is were all this history can be documented. I think it should just be current name and current owner only. If anyone disagrees, please feel free to speak on it here. Cheers - theWOLFchild 23:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree that this shouldn't be mentioned for every name and every owner, but perhaps the inaugural or most notable owner and name could be mentioned? The formers could also be line broken and put in smaller text as I did previously. 78.146.137.190 (talk) 23:53, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Let's let it sit for now and see if anyone has a comment.- theWOLFchild 01:27, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
In the list of large sailing yachts, we got rid of all the instances of "ex" and replaced them with "originally", citing *only* of the vessels' names as they were registered/christened at launch. signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 21:43, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see. But on that list, the "original" name is noted in the "notes" column, not crammed in with the current name. But then, that list has a larger "notes" column than here. Personally, I don't see the need for the addition of original names here, but it's up to the community. - theWOLFchild 00:13, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
No objection to "originally xxx" in the Notes column (plural please). The table could be a little wider and the width of cols 3/4/5 could each be narrowed by about a third - it doesn't matter if some longer names go onto two lines (unless there is a tech problem with wikilinks). Davidships (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
We could look at re-sizing the columns. I think a big difference between the two tables is this one has the photos. - theWOLFchild 21:12, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
indeed copyleft photographs of sailing yachts are not as widely available as those of motor yachts, so in the list of large sailing yachts there is no column for thumbnails, except (in order of preference) an article wikilink, commons cat wikilink or a file wikilink, where available, for the first column "yacht name". Merging the shipyard+country column and omitting the owner column (ownership changes too complicated to verify reliably) enables a wider more descriptive notes column. Owners are simply hinted to with a II or III suffix when namesake yachts are mentioned in the press with the same owner or captain as the original yacht. signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 22:23, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Actually, I like how they have the national flags to represent the countries of the shipbuilders on the other list. I was thinking of doing that here in the builder column and eliminating the country column. - theWOLFchild 22:33, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Silver Fast

https://www.burgessyachts.com/en/sale-purchase-category/yachts-for-sale/motor-yachts/silver-fast-00004701.html This ought to be on the list, right? It was completed in 2015. --RThompson82 (talk) 01:01, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done - theWOLFchild 01:20, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

BRP Ang Pangulo (AT-25)?

The BRP Ang Pangulo (AT-25) is a Presidential yacht for the president of the Philippines. Why should this yacht not be on the list? If it is because it is a presidential yacht, there should be more yachts removed from the list. 102Legobrick (talk) 14:18, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I removed it (for now) so the community could discuss the larger issue of these specific types of boats and determine what should and shouldn't be included. Some appear to be luxury yachts that are owned by the state, (in some cases the state and the owner and difficult to differentiate, such as with Arab Emirates and Kingdoms), and in some cases the boats appear to be naval vessels being treated as yachts, such as HTMS Chakri Naruebet. I would like to see some other editors weigh in with their ideas and opinions on this and see if we can come to a consensus. I'm not dead set against the inclusion of this particular boat, but if we add it, then what else are we opening the door to? - theWOLFchild 14:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
I think it should be added. 78.148.76.115 (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough, your opinion is noted. We'll wait to see if anyone else adds a comment. A day or two won't hurt, the list isn't going anywhere. - theWOLFchild 15:37, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
The lede states "luxury yachts", which would mean that Royal and Presidential Yachts would be inlcuded. On that basis, we should also list HMY Britannia as a former Royal Yacht which still exists and is above 60m length. Mjroots (talk) 13:33, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
I agree with listing Britannia, as we have other Presidential and Royal yachts listed here (over 60m). But Ang Pangulo is numbered and listed at List of ships of the Philippine Navy as an "auxiliary". The question is, if we include this ship, do we also have to add other naval ships that double as "presidential" or other government yachts? (such as HTMS Chakri Naruebet and any others that might pop up) - theWOLFchild 18:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
To my mind Ang Pangulo is indeed a luxury yacht - that is what she was designed for and what she still does. That differs from a ship of another purpose that as a secondary function, or temporarily (like MV Hebridean Princess) acts as a yacht. I cannot see any reason to exclude such vessels - the colour of the hull and whether that carries a pennant number is irrelevant - Dannegrog is already on the list, and I doubt whether there are many more.
Britannia cannot go in a list of motor yachts for the simple reason that she was/is a steam turbine yacht.Davidships (talk) 22:07, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Like I said, I have no problem adding Ang Pangulo to the list. But I think we should determine what criteria we're going to use to include and exclude these types of ships. You mention Hebridean Princess, I've mentioned HTMS Chakri Naruebet as examples. You say you doubt there are many more, but if even one pops up, it would be nice to know how to deal with it without having to go through this again.
  • Britannia is an excellent example of why we should clarify these issues now. By all appearances, it would seem she should be added but as you say, this is a list of "motor" yachts and she it steam powered (I wonder if any others on this list are as well).
    • Do we outright exclude her?
    • Do we include her with a notation that she is steam/turbine?
    • Do rename the list to something like "engine-powered" or "turbine-powered" or "screw (and/or) propeller-driven yachts" and then include her, and others like her?
  • Let's get all this sorted out now, here on the talk page like we're supposed to. Unless there's consensus against it, Ang Pangulo will likely be re-added soon enough. - theWOLFchild 22:54, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
First i think the reason that HMY Britannia should not be included because she is powered by steam is irrelevant. It is more important to look at her status as a ship now, which is that of a museum ship, not a yacht. Secondly, I think that HTMS Chakri Naruebet should not be included in this list because it is a aircraft carrier that is sometimes used to transport the Royal Family of Thailand. Leading to claims that the ship is an oversized royal yacht. This is not the case with the BRP Ang Pangulo (AT-25). This ship is clearly referred to as a Royal yacht. - 102Legobrick (talk) 09:03, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Looking at definitions a steam turbine is motor with external combustion, and the definitions for motor ship have included internal combustion engine as the usual means of propulsion, however in current Merriam Webster the word usual has been omitted. Despite common usage (and I think the article title should remain because of this), the Britannia may qualify for inclusion by exception with a notation that she is a steamyacht out of active service. I vouch for Thewolfchild's option 2. signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 09:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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Proposal

So, like I said... we should lay out some criteria. I'll get it started. I propose that this list;

  • Only includes active boats. Nothing that is permanently drydocked, or only sailed on rare occasions, or museum ships.
  • Only includes boats that are actual "luxury yachts", not boats doubling as yachts, such as naval ships, cruise ships, merchant ships, etc.
  • Only includes yachts that are delivered, not "planned" or "under construction".
  • Should another steam/turbine yacht otherwise qualify for inclusion, it gets added with it's specific type of propulsion noted.
  • As for the ships mentioned here, Ang Pangulo will be added. Britannia, Hebridean Princess and Chakri Naruebet will not.
  • Other future proposed entries that might be affected by this criteria will have be reviewed on a case-by-case basis, and included by consensus.

So, can we all agree on these? I say we let this proposal sit for a few days to give people a chance to review and comment.

  • Support as proposer - theWOLFchild 09:57, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Support, except active should not be quite so prescriptive as some of the older yachts do only sail occasionally - Mahroussa, for example. Davidships (talk) 10:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Support102Legobrick (talk) 11:59, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Support - At least there's a solid proposal put forward. Any changes to the proposal can be discused later, but let's get something up and running first. Mjroots (talk) 12:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
  • support >>permanently drydocked: that means that Destriero (on the dry at Lürssen for years) should be removed from the article. signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 15:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose that Lists of super yachts be merged into List of motor yachts by length . I think that the content in the Lists of super yachts article can easily be explained in the context of List of motor yachts by length, and the List of motor yachts by length article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Lists of super yachts will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 78.148.69.211 (talk) 16:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment - what exactly is there to merge? "List of super yachts" is basically a disambiguation page that only lists links to 4 other lists of yachts. Those 5 five links can be listed in the "See also" section of this page, without the need of any formal proposal. In fact, one link is already listed there, and another is linked in the lead (and the other 2 are being added now). If anything, "List of super yachts" should be deleted or redirected. I think you should withdraw this proposal. - theWOLFchild 16:38, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I think that IP users can't delete pages? Sorry if I'm acting too much like a FNG. 78.148.69.211 (talk) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
If you would formally withdraw your merge proposal, the tag can be removed and List of super yachts can be redirected to this page. I think that would be the best way to go for now. - theWOLFchild 19:35, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Oppose merge - for reasons above - and am content with the redirect suggested, at least for the time being. Davidships (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Some more additions?

https://www.burgessyachts.com/en/sale-purchase-category/yachts-for-sale/motor-yachts/ The Silver Fast is already in the article but the Sycara V and Golden Odyssey II and PJ 210-2 aren't. Any thoughts? --RThompson82 (talk) 05:20, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Ace

The Ace (yacht) article is currently listed for deletion. Article is unreferenced and promotional, both of which are fixable. Is anyone interested enough to save the article? Mjroots (talk) 21:15, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Maybe she is significant because she was one of the very first yachts to be designed to rely on a support vessel (in this case a production 220ft sea axe OPV/PSV design)?signed:Donan Raven (talk, contribs) 22:48, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm missing some older ones in this list

Issham Al Baher (1973 - 115,76 meters) and her sister ship Atlantis II (1981 - 115,82 meters) :-) Kind regards, --Doc Strangepork (talk) 09:17, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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Adding a static rank column

Anyone here familiar enough with tables to add a static rank column? Apparently the instructions can be found here. If it can be done, I believe the list would benefit from it. At a glance, one could see that yacht 'X' is currently the 'n'-th longest in the world, and so on. Anyone? - theWOLFchild 01:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Green tickY Done. In response to a call for help I put out on a couple of tech notice boards, Trappist the monk created a new template to address tbis very issue, which several Wikipedians have been seeking a solution to for some time. Ttm has already added it to the list here and it looks and works great. So a big thanks to Ttm! - theWOLFchild 16:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

U116/ Ulysses pending name change

Superyachtworld.com reports that Graeme Hart, owner of the 116m yacht currently known as "U116", will change the name to "Ulysses" once he sells his his 107m meter yacht, also named "Ulysses". If anyone comes across a report of the sale and/or name change(s), please update the list, (with refs). Thanks. - theWOLFchild 18:35, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Update (sort of): Hart sold his 107m yacht, formerly known as "Ulysses" last autumn. Still no news on the name of the buyer or a new name for the yacht. Meanwhile, Hart has taken delivery of hs new 116m yacht which he has also named "Ulysses". The 107m boat is, at least for now, known as "ex-Ulysses". Page has been moved to Ex-Ulysses (107m yacht) (re-direct). The new 116m boat is now "Ulysses" going foward, and still requires a new page; Ulysses (116m yacht). Also, there are plenty of pics out there of both yachts, is anyone is able to upload any (or for any entry on this list still in need of an image) that would be great. Cheers - theWOLFchild 01:44, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

update

The former 107m "Ulysses" has now been renamed Andromeda (107m yacht). This list has been updated and the page moved (it's still a stub, feel free to add to it). We even have an image now. Still no word on the new owner's name (though it will not be available for charter). If anyone comes across it with a ref, please add it. The new 116m Ulysses still needs an article, or at least a stub and an image. Again, if anyone can add to or update anything here, that would be great. Thanks - theWOLFchild 16:45, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

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List limits...?

Just throwing an idea out there; how making this a list of the "top 150" longest yachts? (a soft cut-off) I've noticed that of the 183 boats currently listed, #151 to #183 are between 60m, the current minimum, and 65m (boat #150 is 65m+ which could be another cut off). The point is, the bottom section of the list is a collection of red links that aren't likely to have their own articles created anytime soon, if at all, or have an image added. Compare this to the top half of the list which has plenty of linked articles and images. I'm sure there are guidelines that could be cited here (wp:not and so forth), and this would make the list look better, more comprehensive. Thoughts? - theWOLFchild 22:54, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

update

The list now stands at 201 entries. Entries #141 to #201 are between 60m (the minimum) and 69m, entry #140 is 70m (Thanks gawd for this new ranking column, it makes life so much easier). This bottom quarter (≈) are primarily red-linked entries that also lack images and are not likely to have articles created or images added anytime soon, if at all (Only 6 of 61 bottom entries have articles, whereas 70 of the top 140 entries have articles). Perhaps we could look at setting the minimum length for inclusion at 70m? This would make the list more comprehensive and informative, and less of a 'dumping ground' for these smaller, less notable boats. So, again... thoughts? Anyone? - theWOLFchild 11:22, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

added note - images

Currently, 102 of the top 140 entries of this list have images. The other 38 entries still needing images are at the lower end. Of the bottom 61 entries, only 9 have images. I mention this both as an added note to the comment above as well as an open request for more images. If anyone here is particularly knowledgeable with finding and adding images to WP and/or Commons and can add some of the needed ones for this list, that would be great. I added as many as I could find looking through Commons and still check from time to time for any new ones, but that's the extent of my image-adding ability. Thanks - theWOLFchild 11:35, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

And there's more...

In the past couple days, since my last post, an IP user has added 64 more entries (in a single edit). This is in addition to the 18 other recent entries added previously. With few exceptions, almost all of the entries are boats that are 75m or less, have no article of their own, have no image available and the owner "unknown". This is taking away from the quality and purpose of this list and turning it into a dumping ground of average, barely notable boats and a growing list of red links. I would again suggest, (make that strongly urge) that some kind of limit is considered, whether it be the number of entries or a minimum length. I would suggest either a "top 100" or "top 150" (at most) or perhaps a minimum length of 75m/250ft. Thoughts? - theWOLFchild 11:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Another issue: article size

We should also take into account the article size. This page is now 110,000+ bytes (110+ kB). According to WP:SIZERULE;

Some useful rules of thumb for splitting articles, and combining small pages:

  • 100 kB - Almost certainly should be divided
  • 60 kB - Probably should be divided (although the scope of a topic can sometimes justify the added reading material)
  • 50 kB - May need to be divided (likelihood goes up with size)

Division of overly long pages is recommended for several reasons, including the ability of most devices to load the page in a timely manner, if at all, and reader attention. How many readers are likely to read past, say... the top 50 or 100 yachts, all the way through to entry #265 at the bottom of the list?

For demonstration/visual purposes and to gauge change in article size, I (briefly) removed the lower section of the list (entries <75m) which as it turned out, basically cut the list in half, as there are currently 131 yachts with a length of 75m or longer, and 134 yachts with a length under 75m. This also resulted in a reduction of 56,481 bytes (56 kB), bringing the page size down to 53,922 bytes (53 kB).

  • This is what the list looks like with the reduction, and
  • This is what the removed lower section looks like, on its own (temporarily placed in my sandbox).

It's plain to see that this edit not only brings the page into compliance with the project's sizing guidelines, but the upper half, on it's own, is a more detailed, informative and comprehensive list, whereas the lower section, on its own, is much less so. As I mentioned above, it is primarily a list if redlinks, few of which, (if any at all), are likely to have their own articles created. These entries also lack other items of information, such as "owner", leaving a column full of "unknown" entries, or images, leaving another column full of blank cells. This gives the lower section an appearance of being a dumping ground of superfluous entries, of which Wikipedia is NOT.

Unless there is a strong consensus supported by sound reasoning to retain this lower section, I am going to boldly remove it, and rewrite the section of the lead indicating that this is a list of yachts 75m (or 250ft) in length or greater, as it would be a clear improvememt. This does not mean that the entries in the lower section, (60m to 75m) need be lost or the work adding them futile. The lower section could be forked to its own list/article, and entries in that size range could continue to be added, and hopefully the existing entries would be updated as well. The only item left to sort out would be article titles. I'll wait a day or two to see if anyone has any input on that, or any of this on general. (I first raised this issue 2 months ago and to date there has been no response). Thanks - theWOLFchild 11:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Article split

List trimmed

Per comments and guidelines posted above here, the entries from the lower section of the list (60m to 74.9m) have been removed and preserved here for review and discussion of potential outcomes (delete, fork, re-merge);

list of yachts 60m to 74.9m in length
Rank Name Length Built (/refit) Owner Builder Country of origin Photo Note
1 Elandess 74.50 m (244 ft) 2018 Lloyd Dorfman Abeking & Rasmussen Germany [1][2]
2 Mogambo 74.37 m (244 ft) 2011 unknown Nobiskrug Germany [3]
3 Zeus 74 m (243 ft) 1991 Aidan Barclay Blohm + Voss Germany [4]
4 Global 74 m (243 ft) 2007 Lars Windhorst Lürssen Germany [5][6]
5 Aurora 74 m (243 ft) 2018 Andrey Molchanov Lürssen Germany [7][8]
6 Cloud 9 74 m (243 ft) 2017 Brett Blundy CRN Spa Italy [9][10]
7 New Secret 74 m (243 ft) 2017 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [11]
8 Universe 74 m (243 ft) 2018 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [12]
9 Cocoa Bean 73.98 m (243 ft) 2014 Ali Ghandour Trinity Yachts, LLC United States [13]
10 Odessa II 73.80 m (242 ft) 2013 Len Blavatnik Nobiskrug Germany [14][15]
11 Naia 73.60 m (241 ft) 2011 unknown Freire Shipyard Spain [16]
12 Dytan 73.55 m (241 ft) 2012 unknown Nobiskrug Germany [17]
13 Sapphire 73.50 m (241 ft) 2011 Filaret Galchev Nobiskrug Germany [18][19]
14 Plvs Vltra 73.50 m (241 ft) 2015 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [20]

[21]

15 Rabdan 73.30 m (240 ft) 2007 Royal family of Abu Dhabi Hanseatic Marine Australia [22][23]
16 Dragonfly 73.30 m (240 ft) 2009 Sergey Brin Hanseatic Marine Australia [24][25]
17 Nautilus 73.30 m (240 ft) 2013 unknown Perini Navi Italy [26][27]
18 Planet Nine 73.20 m (240 ft) 2018 unknown Admiral Yachts Italy [28]
19 Yalla 73 m (240 ft) 2014 Naguib Sawiris CRN Spa Italy [29]
20 Hasna 73 m (240 ft) 2018 John Symond Feadship Netherlands [30][31][32]
21 Predator 72.80 m (239 ft) 2008 Iskander Makhmudov Feadship Netherlands [33]
22 Queen K 72.60 m (238 ft) 2004 Oleg Deripaska Lürssen Germany [34][35]
23 Vicky 72.60 m (238 ft) 2012 unknown Turquoise Yachts Turkey [36]
24 Coral Ocean 72.54 m (238 ft) 1994 Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Abdulmalik Al-Sheikh Lürssen Germany [37][38]
25 Axioma 72.50 m (238 ft) 2013 Dmitry Pumpyansky Dunya Yachts Turkey [39]
26 Cloudbreak 72.25 m (237 ft) 2016 Alexander Svetakov Abeking & Rasmussen Germany [40][41][42]
27 Stella Maris 72.10 m (237 ft) 2013 unknown VSY Italy [43]
28 Azteca 72 m (236 ft) 2010 Ricardo Salinas Pliego CRN Spa Italy [44]
29 Albatross 72 m (236 ft) 2016 Al Futtaim family Delta Marine United States [45][46][47][48]
30 Utopia 71.60 m (235 ft) 2004 Bill Miller Feadship Netherlands [49]
31 Haida G 71.10 m (233 ft) 1929 unknown Krupp Germania Werft Germany [50]
32 The One 71.05 m (233 ft) 1973 unknown Lürssen Germany [51]
33 Enigma XK 71 m (233 ft) 1988/2014 unknown Atlantic Refit Center France [52]
34 Skat 71 m (233 ft) 2001 Charles Simonyi Lürssen Germany
35 Victoria 71 m (233 ft) 2018 unknown AES Yachts Turkey [53]
36 Reverie 70.10 m (230 ft) 1999 Peter Sperling Benetti Italy [54]
37 Galactica Super Nova 70.07 m (230 ft) 2016 Vagit Alekperov Heesen Yachts Netherlands [55][56]
38 Nomad 70 m (230 ft) 2003 unknown Oceanfast Australia [57]
39 High Power III 70 m (230 ft) 2011 unknown Rossinavi Italy [58]
40 Joy 70 m (230 ft) 2016 Sameer Gehlaut Feadship Netherlands [59][60][61]
41 Spectre 69.20 m (227 ft) 2018 John Staluppi Benetti Italy [62][63]
42 Suerte 69 m (226 ft) 2015 unknown Tankoa Yachts S.p.A. Italy [64][65][66]
43 Samaya 69 m (226 ft) 2017 unknown Feadship Netherlands [67]
44 Attessa 68.58 m (225 ft) 1998 Dennis Washington Feadship Netherlands [68]
45 Lady S 68.50 m (225 ft) 2006 Daniel Snyder Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [69][70]
46 Hermitage 68.50 m (225 ft) 2011 Anatoly Sedykh Lürssen Germany [71][72]
47 Alwaeli 68 m (223 ft) 1991 King of Bahrain CRN Spa Italy [73]
48 Destriero 68 m (223 ft) 1991 unknown Fincantieri Italy [74]
49 Aviva 68 m (223 ft) 2007 Joe Lewis Abeking & Rasmussen Germany
50 Lady Christine 68 m (223 ft) 2010 Irvine Laidlaw, Baron Laidlaw Feadship Netherlands [75]
51 Archimedes 67.75 m (222 ft) 2008 James Simons Feadship Netherlands [76]
52 Icon 67.50 m (221 ft) 2009 unknown ICON Yachts Netherlands [77]
53 Falcon Lair 67.30 m (221 ft) 1983 Michael Rogerson Feadship Netherlands [78]
54 Drizzle 67.27 m (221 ft) 2012 Amancio Ortega Feadship Netherlands [79][80]
55 Siran 67 m (220 ft) 1992 Bob Manoukian Feadship Netherlands [81]
56 Anna I 67 m (220 ft) 2007 Dmitry Rybolovlev Feadship Netherlands [82]
57 Maria 67 m (220 ft) 2017 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [83]
58 Seasense 67 m (220 ft) 2018 Charles S. Cohen Benetti Italy [84][85]
59 Triple Seven 66.70 m (219 ft) 2006 Alexander Abramov Nobiskrug Germany [86][87]
60 OKTO 66.40 m (218 ft) 2014 Theodore Angelopoulos ISA Yachts Italy [88]
61 Vanish 66.25 m (217 ft) 2016 Larry van Tuyl Feadship Netherlands [89][90]
62 Luna B 66 m (217 ft) 2005 unknown Oceanco Netherlands [91]
63 Lady M 66 m (217 ft) 2013 Alexei Mordashov Palmer Johnson United States [92][93]
64 Elysian 66 m (217 ft) 2014 John W. Henry Lürssen Germany [94][95][96][97]
65 Infinite Shades 65.70 m (216 ft) 2011 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [98]
66 Sea Rhapsody 65.70 m (216 ft) 2012 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [99]
67 Z. 65.70 m (216 ft) 2014 Kostyantyn Zhevago Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [100][101]
68 Invictus 65.50 m (215 ft) 2013 Rick J. Caruso Delta Marine United States [102][103]
69 Trident 65.22 m (214 ft) 2006 unknown Feadship Netherlands [104]
70 Callisto 65.20 m (214 ft) 2006 Derrick Smith Feadship Netherlands [105][106]
71 Cedar Sea II 65.15 m (214 ft) 1986 Mouawad family Feadship Netherlands [107]
72 Wedge Too 65 m (213 ft) 2002 Issam M. Fares Feadship Netherlands [108]
73 White Rose Of Drachs 65 m (213 ft) 2004 unknown Peters Werft GmbH Germany [109]
74 Ambrosia 65 m (213 ft) 2006 unknown Benetti Italy [110]
75 Main 65 m (213 ft) 2008 Giorgio Armani Codecasa S.p.A. Italy [111][112]
76 Tanusha 65 m (213 ft) 2009 unknown Feadship Netherlands [113]
77 Double Down 65 m (213 ft) 2010 unknown Codecasa S.p.A. Italy [114]
78 Eternity 65 m (213 ft) 2010 unknown Codecasa S.p.A. Italy [115]
79 Rahil 65 m (213 ft) 2011 unknown Benetti Italy [116]
80 Galactica Star 65 m (213 ft) 2013 Kola Aluko Heesen Yachts Netherlands
81 Shemara 64.68 m (212 ft) 1938 Charles Dunstone Vosper Thornycroft United Kingdom [117]
82 Silver Angel 64.50 m (212 ft) 2009 unknown Benetti Italy [118]
83 Lady Marina 63.95 m (210 ft) 1993 Sergio Mantegazza Feadship Netherlands [119]
84 Scout 63.70 m (209 ft) 2018 unknown Hakvoort Netherlands [120]
85 Lioness V 63.50 m (208 ft) 2006 unknown Benetti Italy [121][122]
86 Shahnaz 63.40 m (208 ft) 1991 Waleed bin Ibrahim Al Ibrahim Nuoni Cantieri Liguri Italy [123]
87 Sokar 63.10 m (207 ft) 1990 Mohamed Al-Fayed Codecasa S.p.A. Italy
88 Irimari 63.10 m (207 ft) 2015 unknown Sunrise Yachts Turkey [124][125][126]
89 Kolaha 63 m (207 ft) 2010 unknown ISA Yachts Italy [127][128][129]
90 Lady Britt 63 m (207 ft) 2011 Sten Warborn Feadship Netherlands [130]
91 11/11 63 m (207 ft) 2015 Nick Candy Benetti Italy [131]
92 Satori 63 m (207 ft) 2018 unknown Delta Marine United States [132][133]
93 Utopia IV 63 m (207 ft) 2018 James Howard Ridinger Rossinavi Italy [134][135]
94 Metis 63 m (207 ft) 2018 unknown Benetti Italy [136]
95 Polar Star 62.97 m (207 ft) 2005 unknown Lürssen Germany [137]
96 Lucky Lady 62.60 m (205 ft) 2002 unknown Oceanco Netherlands [138]
97 Baton Rouge 62.50 m (205 ft) 2010 Martin Bouygues ICON Yachts Netherlands [139][140]
98 Party Girl 62.50 m (205 ft) 2012 unknown ICON Yachts Netherlands [141]
99 Event 62.40 m (205 ft) 2013 Xu Jiayin Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [142][143]
100 Madame Kate 62.40 m (205 ft) 2015 Alexandre Bartelle Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [144]
101 Sea & Us 62.40 m (205 ft) 2018 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [145]
102 Flag 62.30 m (204 ft) 2000 unknown Feadship Netherlands [146][147]
103 Virginian 62.23 m (204 ft) 1991 Anthony Bamford Feadship Netherlands [148]
104 Sarah 62 m (203 ft) 2002 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [149]
105 Apogee 62 m (203 ft) 2003 unknown Codecasa S.p.A. Italy [150]
106 New Hampshire 62 m (203 ft) 2005 unknown Feadship Netherlands [151][152][153]
107 Sea Walk 62 m (203 ft) 2005 unknown Oceanco Netherlands [154]
108 Moneikos 62 m (203 ft) 2006 unknown Codecasa S.p.A. Italy [155]
109 Mine Games 62 m (203 ft) 2010 unknown Benetti Italy [156]
110 Sea Owl 62 m (203 ft) 2013 Robert Mercer Feadship Netherlands [157]
111 Waku 62 m (203 ft) 2015 unknown Benetti Italy [158]
112 Katharine 61.50 m (202 ft) 2000 Lee R. Anderson Sr. CRN Spa Italy [159][160]
113 Calypso 61.50 m (202 ft) 2003 unknown Amels Holland B.V. Netherlands [161]
114 Adora 61.50 m (202 ft) 2010 unknown Benetti Italy [162]
115 White Rabbit 61.40 m (201 ft) 2005 unknown North West Bay Yachts Pty Ltd Australia [163]
116 Voyager 61.30 m (201 ft) 1973 unknown Astilleros Celaya S.A. Spain [164]
117 Saramour 61.30 m (201 ft) 2014 unknown CRN Spa Italy [165]
118 Il Vagabondo 61.20 m (201 ft) 1987 unknown CRN Spa Italy [166]
119 Majestic 61.20 m (201 ft) 2007 Bruce Sherman Feadship Netherlands [167]
120 Mylin IV 61 m (200 ft) 1992 Micky Arison Feadship Netherlands [168]
121 Just J's 61 m (200 ft) 2015 Jay Schottenstein Hakvoort Netherlands [169]
122 Avanti 60.97 m (200 ft) 2004 unknown Lürssen Germany [170]
123 Samadhi 60.96 m (200 ft) 2006 Daniel Loeb Feadship Netherlands [171]
124 Diamonds Are Forever 60.96 m (200 ft) 2011 unknown Benetti Italy [172][173][174][175][176]
125 Meduse 60.60 m (199 ft) 1996 unknown Feadship Netherlands [177]
126 Kingdom Come 60.55 m (199 ft) 1979 unknown Feadship Netherlands [178]
127 Blue Moon 60.35 m (198 ft) 2005 Richard L. Duchossois Feadship Netherlands [179]
128 Vive la Vie 60.35 m (198 ft) 2008 unknown Lürssen Germany [180]
129 ROCK.IT 60.35 m (198 ft) 2014 Jimmy John Liautaud Feadship Netherlands [181]
130 Sarastar 60.22 m (198 ft) 2017 unknown Mondo Marine SpA Italy [182]
131 Paraffin 60.10 m (197 ft) 2002 unknown Feadship Netherlands [183]
132 Darnice III 60 m (197 ft) 1986 Hussein Nuaman Soufraki Benetti Italy [184]
133 Lady Beatrice 60 m (197 ft) 1993 David and Frederick Barclay Feadship Netherlands [185]
134 Sea Pearl 60 m (197 ft) 2004 unknown Oceanco Netherlands [186]
135 Constance 60 m (197 ft) 2006 Alan Dabbiere CRN Spa Italy [187]
136 Podium 60 m (197 ft) 2006 unknown Lürssen Germany [188]
137 Andereas L 60 m (197 ft) 2008 unknown Benetti Italy [189]
138 St. David 60 m (197 ft) 2008 unknown Benetti Italy [190]
139 Caipirinha 60 m (197 ft) 2009 unknown Lürssen Germany [191]
140 Elysian 60 m (197 ft) 2009 unknown Abeking & Rasmussen Germany [192]
141 Ice Angel 60 m (197 ft) 2009 unknown CMN Yacht Division France [193]
142 Slipstream 60 m (197 ft) 2009 unknown CMN Yacht Division France [194]
143 Tacanuyaso M.S. 60 m (197 ft) 2009 unknown CRN Spa Italy [195]
144 Huntress 60 m (197 ft) 2010 George Argyros Lürssen Germany [196][197]
145 Kaiser 60 m (197 ft) 2011 Oleksandr Yaroslavsky Abeking & Rasmussen Germany [198]
146 Osho 60 m (197 ft) 2011 unknown Benetti Italy [199]
147 Excellence V 60 m (197 ft) 2012 Herb Chambers Abeking & Rasmussen Germany [200][201]
148 Formosa 60 m (197 ft) 2015 unknown Benetti Italy [202]
149 Samurai 60 m (197 ft) 2016 unknown Alia Yachts Turkey [203]
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The remaining entries on the main list still need some articles created (or stubs at least) and it would be great if anyone could provide the last few needed images. (See comment below for more info) Thanks - theWOLFchild 23:01, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

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