Talk:List of countries and dependencies and their capitals in native languages/Archive 1

Archive 1

India's name in Tamil

India's name in Tamil is Bharadham -- 11:04, 1 May 2020 Rohn jamson

India's name in Urdu language

Following are the names which is used in Urdu as well as few more languages for INDIA.

• Bharat
• Hindustan -- 11:02, 1 May 2020 Rohn jamson

Native format

What's the point of linking to the same place in both columns? Why shouldnt we use native format for native names? --Jiang 02:59, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Transcriptions

Why have all the names been transliterated into Roman characters? Would it not be better to place the Romanization next to the native orthography? If so, I will contribute Běijīng, Zhōngguó and Tōkyō, Nippon, which are 北京,中国 and 東京,日本 respectively. Livajo 03:03, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

北京,中国 is ungrammatical. It's supposed to be 中国北京 (larger place to smaller) and I agree. --Jiang

Sorry, my Mandarin isn't that great. Thank you for pointing that out. Livajo 03:18, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I agree. Shouldn't this article be called List of countries and capitals in Romanized native languages instead of its current name since the native names are Romanized? DHN 10:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Links

If you don't want to click the links, then don't. There is no need to break them. They are all valid links on wikipedia. They are in Roman because this in the English version of wikipedia, plus the list would grow too unwieldy. This is just a simple LIST, not a comprehensive dissertation. By changing order of city, country it is confusing as to which native word means what. It is for clarity.--Sampo Torgo

The links are already present in the first column. Explain what adding them to the second column (many broken) adds to the article. The English Wikipedia often provides translations on foreign topics in their original scripts, so your argument is not valid. If the order of the city and country are changed, then perhaps we can indicate it with an asterik? Not doing so defeats the purpose of native names. --Jiang 05:13, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I agree with Jiang, but at the same time would like to see both the transliteration and the name in the original alphabet. --Gangulf 06:05, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Order

This is not a list of countries with capitals but of capitals with countries. Please change the order by first naming the country and then naming the capital. ANother suggestion: Add the language name.

Break up table?

The table on the page is very long, and it's impossible to edit it easily because of it... Is it possible to break it up into four smaller tables, say A-C, D-K, L-P, Q-Z? I'd like to edit the New Zealand entry, which gives one of the two Maori names for Wellington (the other is Poneke), but risk losing U-Z if I do. Grutness|^hello? 13:43, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Tibet

Like England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales discussed above, Tibet, as an autonomous region of the PRC, do not enjoy the same degree of autonomy as dependencies. Or else we'll have to add all the autonomous regions of the PRC into the list, for fair sake. - Privacy 17:09, Jan 25 2005 (UTC) TIBET IS A NICE COUNTRY AND U SHOULD ALL RESPECT IT!!!

Taiwan / Taipei

I don't think Hanyu Pinyin is the official romanisation used by the government of the Republic of China, tho the Taipei city government adopts it officially - Privacy 17:10, Jan 25 2005 (UTC)

Palestine

Palestine is not a country, and doesn't have a capital. If it was a country, its capital would be Jerusalem. The de facto administrative centre of the Palestinian Territories is Ramallah. Why does this article say Gaza is the capital of Palestine? Adam 07:34, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) Also, why is Macau here when Hong Kong is not? Adam 07:36, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Agree -- Ramallah probably better... AnonMoos 05:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

This list includes dependent territories and some disputed areas (i.e.- "Palestine") that are de facto independent. The special administrative regions of the People's Republic of China, namely Hong Kong and Macau, are also included. --DandanxD 04:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Why is this included? As a non-country it should be removed.

It was initially added because while it isn’t realistically independent, it’s de jure independent, it’s a un observer like Vatican, and over 136 countries Recognise it Talatastan (talk) 21:32, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Nauru

Nauru is the only country in the world without an official capital.

What about the Vatican City? No capital is listed for it, either. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 13:45, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

The whole territory of Vatican is a single city. Quite naturally, it also serves as its own capital. Nauru, on the other hand, doesn't have any cities. -- Naive cynic 11:10, 1 August 2005 (UTC) We should say that eventhough Nauru has no official capital, it has a de facto one and put its name in Nauru's native language. Robin Hood 1212 02:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, it lists the Nauruan name as English Rmpfu89 23:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Where's Andorra?

Andorra is missing. narkisto 22:55, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Added. Chanheigeorge 10:06, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Problems

Some of the Arabic names seem to be truncated to one word (under Brunei the Arabic letters just read "dar", while under the word Iraq is the Arabic word for "republic"). Also, the Israeli government doesn't officially use the form al-Quds as the Arabic name of Jerusalem, but rather the old borrowing from Aramaic اورشليم (see Names of Jerusalem). AnonMoos 14:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Arab state name problems

The names of many of the Arab countries were really a mess, with random words taken from the "long form names" of the countries (often just the Arabic word for "republic" or whatever), and not the short-form names at all. I've fixed the errors I've noticed... AnonMoos 16:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Iraq

The Kurdish name of Iraq and Baghdad should be added since Kurdish is an official language there.

Nigeria

I am pretty sure the language list for Nigeria is vandalism: it lists Broken English Rmpfu89 23:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Turkmenistan

The mane given here tor Turkmenistan is "Turkmenostan," on Turkmen Wikipedia, it is "Türkmenistan." Assuming that the Turkmen would know the name of their country, I am changing it. -Rmpfu89 18:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

explaining my changes to the Chinas, the Congos & the Koreas

Since these all have the same English short name I just went ahead and changed there names to there official long forms to conform to list of countries & List of sovereign states because I think it's better to conform to the other list. Besides it not Official The Two Koreas do not recognized each other North Korea is not the Official English Short Name of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, which would be Korea. South Korea is not the Official English Short Name of the Republic of Korea, which would be Korea. The Two Chinas do not recognized each other China is the Official English Short Name of the People's Republic of China Taiwan is not the Official English Short Name of the Republic of China, which would be China. The Two Congo’s recognized each other but Congo- Kinshasa not the Official English Short Name of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, which would be Congo. Congo-Brazzaville is not the Official English Short Name of the Republic of the Congo, which would be Congo. So I just went buy the Official English Names to be safe. (I just needed help with formatting & Transliterations BionicWilliam 07:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC) I have corrected "Transitional Islamic State of Afghanistan" to "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan" and avoided redirects on the Congos (I also just want a general consence on this issue, should we go buy what the countries say is correct on what the general public goes by)I also think we sould conform with the other two main country list so we are not contradict are selfs. I just want to add the Republic of China Transliteration don't conform with its article BionicWilliam 08:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC) I have done compromise wich I rhink we can all agree on. North Korea is now (North) Korea South Korea is now (South) Korea As on list of countries People's Republic of China is now (China) People's Republic of Taiwan is now (China) People's Republic of- Taiwan is not the official short name As on list of countries Congo-Brazzaville is now Congo to conform with native name column Congo-Kinshasa is now Congo to conform with native name column As on list of countries Since we go by what that says (Header states “The following chart lists the countries of the world (as defined here), along with their capital cities, in English as well as in the country's native language (when different).”) BionicWilliam 19:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC) I am just trying to keep all the pages in sync with each other, It biased to put them as what it was before since wikipedia tries to not take sides and to display pages that conform with each other. I also belive Reywas92 edit be nuetral as possible. BionicWilliam 18:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC) South Korea was named "Namhan" while North Korea "Bukhan". These are not official names recognised by the Korean governments(especially North Korea since that name is only used in South Korea). Changed Namham-> Hangook and Bukhan-> Joseon. Also moved South Korea and North Korea to K. --DandanxD 04:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Exonym and Endonym redirection problem

Exonym and [[Endonym both redirect to Exonym and endonym we might want to fix that BionicWilliam 00:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Bloemfontein, South Africa

Granted three capitals seems a bit much for a country, but in the article of South Africa, Bloemfontein is listed as the judicial capital. Shouldn't this be included? Paploo 18:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Washington

Shouldn't the exonym be just "Washington" instead of "Washington, DC"? Unless the table is stating the capital is not Washington, Pennsylvania (southwestish of Pittsburgh), for example. JMHO. Paploo 18:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Other countries with multiple capitals

Bolivia also has two capitals: La Paz and Sucre. Benin, Tanzania, and Sri Lanka are also countries that list two capitals in their respective articles. Other countries that have more than one capital that were not listed are as following:Cote D'Ivoire (Yamoussoukro and Abidjan), Netherlands (Amsterdam and The Hague), Swaziland (Mbabane and Lobamba), and Georgia (Tbilisi and Kutaisi). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.76.254.195 (talk) 17:08, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Endonym of Monaco

Munego is Monégasque, a Ligurian dialect that the people of Monaco (the Monégasque) speak, for Monaco. The official language is French, in which the name of the nation is Monaco. Paploo 19:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

New Discussion

A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 11:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

lefkosia

i wish people wouldnt put levkosia with a stress on the o. it is lefkosia with an f sound and the stress on the i. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.217.136 (talk) 19:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Burma

Burma is not listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.160.170 (talk) 13:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

If you actually bother to look close enough, it is listed under its official name of Myanmar. The name commonly used by the Western World is not entirely the native name. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 03:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

North Korea

North Korea is not listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.160.170 (talk) 13:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

If you actually bother to look close enough, it is listed under Korea, North. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 03:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

South Korea

South Korea is not listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.160.170 (talk) 13:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

If you actually bother to look close enough, it is listed under Korea, South. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 03:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

New Guinea

New Guinea is not listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.160.170 (talk) 13:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

There is no country called New Guinea, that is an island; there is, however, Papua New Guinea. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 03:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Ethiopia - ኢትዮጵያ

In Amharic, the country name Ethiopia is never rendered as ኢትዮጲያ, although the pronounciation to non Ethiopians might sound like ኢትዮጲያ. The correct name in Amharic and also Tigrigna is ኢትዮጵያ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fanos01 (talk • contribs) 11:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC) Fanos01 (talk) 11:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Switzerland

Switzerland has been fixed, native language is Swiss German (Schwyzerdütsch/Schwiizertüütsch) not High German (Hochdeutsch). Source, me a Swiss national from Aargau, danke vilmal.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccarthy86 (talk • contribs)

According to the Constitution, German is official.--80.142.212.1 (talk) 16:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

You are being misled, Swiss Standard German is used for official written documents such as the constitution, newspapers even taught in schools. However this is only because Swiss German isnt a written language, therefore the Swiss Standard German is only used for those cases, the native language as this wikipedia page states, is in fact swiss german.

Where is???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Netherlands — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.61.11.112 (talk) 12:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Not there, it's just part of the Netherlands. CMD (talk) 12:53, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Merger

List of countries and capitals in native languages already contains the native names of countries. List of countries by native names is unnecessary. cntrational (talk) 02:53, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Support merge, duplication.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Support, only difference is a couple of dependencies scattered around. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Ta-Te

What does this mean under the United States entry? -- AnonMoos (talk) 11:01, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

What the fuck is Kaalu?

Endonym of Germany

There is only one endonym of Germany: Deutschland. The listed names Němska and Nimska are definitely no endonyms but exonyms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.219.221.23 (talk) 10:50, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation in IPA

It would be good to include the pronunciation of the names in IPA, because we do not know the pronunciation of words in other languages. Torneira (talk) 22:33, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

South Sudan is missing

South Sudan is on the State Department's list of countries: http://www.state.gov/misc/list/ --TDKehoe (talk) 14:08, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 October 2017

Palestine should be removed. It is not a country and does not qualify in any way for this article 66.108.14.30 (talk) 19:42, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Not done There is no consensus for this change; it is also listed in list of countries and is recognized by many states.Galobtter^{Talk to me!} 09:03, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Number of sovereign states

Hi,

I am requesting that the number of internationally Recognised states in bold be 195 as opposed to 194 not necessarily because I hold any biases to any of the partially recognised states, I’m just saying this realistically and on a DE JURE basis, there are 195 LEGALLY sovereign states according to the UN

http://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-are-there-in-the-world/

https://metro.co.uk/2017/06/14/how-many-countries-are-in-the-world-why-are-there-different-answers-6708146/

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/how-many-countries-are-there-world-2018

http://www.un.org/en/sections/member-states/non-member-states/index.html

Talatastan (talk) 21:52, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

It is not correct that there are 195 "legally sovereign" states, and I do not see how one can make that claim while keeping a NPOV. There are several articles on Wikipedia that list sovereign states, and all of them include as sovereign states (i) the 193 members of the UN and (ii) Vatican City, an independent country whose sovereignty is held by the Holy See. This excludes de facto sovereign states with nontrivial levels of international recognition, to wit, the State of Palestine, the Republic of Kosovo and the Republic of China (Taiwan). While I believe that Palestine, Kosovo and Taiwan have a better claim for being considered sovereign states than do other states with limited international recognition (such as Northern Cyprus, Somaliland, and other states that are not recognized by more than a handful of UN members), I ultimately conclude that I agree with the position of Wikipedia's editing community that Vatican City should be grouped along with the 193 UN member states as fully recognized foreign states but that Palestine, Kosovo and Taiwan should not be so classified.

Why does Wikipedia treat Vatican City, which is not a UN member state, the same as UN member states? I can't speak for other editors, but I can think of several objective reasons why it generally is grouped among sovereign states. First of all, its territory is not claimed by any other country. In fact, the only country that possibly could claim its territory--Italy, which surrounds Vatican City on all sides--has signed a treaty renouncing all rights to sovereignty over Vatican City's territory and recognizing the Holy See's sovereignty and Vatican City's independence. Moreover, the main reason why Vatican City is not a member of the UN is that, to date, it never has expressed interest in becoming a member state, much less formally applied for membership. In addition, Vatican City's international recognition as an independent country is as widespread as all but a few nations: 189 of the 193 UN members recognize Vatican City as an independent country whose sovereignty is held by the Holy See, with the only exceptions being the People's Republic of China (which does not maintain diplomatic relations with countries that officially recognize Taiwan), North Korea (which Vatican City does not recognize, given its position that South Korea is the rightful government of the entire Korean Peninsula), the Kingdom of Bhutan and the Republic of the Maldives. The case for Vatican City to be treated the same as UN member states is pretty close to unassailable.

By contrast, Palestine, Kosovo and Taiwan do not have anywhere near the same level of international recognition as Vatican City. It is true that the State of Palestine and the Republic of Kosovo both have been recognized by over half of UN states, and Taiwan is de facto recognized by a majority of UN states (albeit not de jure because of threats from the People's Republic of China), but they do not approach the 98%-level of recognition enjoyed by Vatican City. While Kosovo, to date, has not applied for UN membership, Taiwan is a former UN member that was expelled and replaced by the People's Republic of China, and the State of Palestine applied for and was rejected for membership (although the UN did throw it a bone by changing its designation from "non-member observer entity" to "non-member observer state"). One thing that those three de facto independent countries have in common is that they face claims upon their territory from UN members (Israel, Serbia and the People's Republic of China, respectively). These are the reasons why Palestine, Kosovo and Taiwan are listed in Wikipedia articles as de facto sovereign states with partial, or limited, international recognition.

In my opinion, the consensus that has developed to date among Wikipedia editors regarding the classification of "sovereign countries" and "de facto sovereign states with partial, or limited, international recognition" is the correct one, but I invite the rest of the editing community to provide their opinions and input on this matter. I also would add that, if the consensus has changed and de facto sovereign states whose legal sovereignty is in dispute but which are recognized (either de jure or de facto) by a majority of nations are to be grouped along with the 193 UN members and Vatican City, then all three of Palestine, Kosovo and Taiwan should be afforded the same treatment. But if the three have to be differentiated, I believe that Kosovo would have the best claim to being deemed a sovereign state, with Palestine having the next best claim and Taiwan having the weakest. But, again, I don't believe that it would be wise to go down that road and designate disputed states as "legally sovereign," particularly given that such decision necessarily would be difficult to make while keeping a NPOV. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 00:22, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 May 2018

I am requesting that the bolded internationally recognized states include only the 193 members of the UN PLUS the two observer states, including Palestine, whom also enjoys substantial but not full worldwide recognition as a state (136 members, one observer- 70.5% of the UN). Me requesting Palestine be included does NOT pertain to my biases towards this issue, Im just strictly going by the UN's classification of 193 states, two observers, and 13 non UN others (artsakh, northern cyprus, somaliland, kosovo, taiwan, transnistria, abkhazia, S ossetia, Western Sahara (optional), cook island, Niue). Please carefully consider my request. Thank you. Talatastan (talk) 00:55, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. As the instructions for edit requests state: ...consensus should be obtained before requesting changes that are likely to be controversial. A vague request to change inclusion criteria based on personal understanding of what nations are or are not "real" is not going to be accepted. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:20, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Classification of states

Dear the ENTIRE editing community,

I have a more impartial and better proposals that is designed to provide a temporary solution (if not a permanent one) to this ‘number of sovereign states’ war. Here are the following proposals, and please let me know if you agree with both, one, or none, but anyways (trigger war in 3, 2, 1), here it is;

Option A)

193 sovereign states

2 observer and widely Recognised states ( palestine Vatican )

2 specially sovereign states ( Kosovo and Taiwan)

Then the rest

Option B)

194 sovereign states ( UN members and Vatican)

1 observer state with most but not fully sufficient recognition ( palestine)

2 specially sovereign states ( Taiwan and Kosovo )

Then the rest

Talatastan (talk) 23:44, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 May 2018

Dear the ENTIRE editing community,

I have a more impartial and better proposals that is designed to provide a temporary solution (if not a permanent one) to this ‘number of sovereign states’ war. Here are the following proposals, and please let me know if you agree with both, one, or none, but anyways (trigger war in 3, 2, 1), here it is;

Option A)

193 sovereign states

2 observer and widely Recognised states ( palestine Vatican )

2 specially sovereign states ( Kosovo and Taiwan)

Then the rest

Option B)

194 sovereign states ( UN members and Vatican)

1 observer state with most but not fully sufficient recognition ( palestine)

2 specially sovereign states ( Taiwan and Kosovo )

Then the rest Talatastan (talk) 18:39, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Between those two options, I vote for B; Vatican City should continue to be grouped with generally recognized sovereign states. But it isn't as simple as having a separate category for Palestine, another for Taiwan and Kosovo, and then one for "the rest," given that the two New Zealand associated republics (Niue and Cook Islands) and the various de-facto sovereign states with almost no recognition (Somaliland, Northern Cyprus, etc.) should not be grouped with dependent territories that do not even purport to be sovereign. While I believe that Taiwan and Kosovo are more akin to the State of Palestine than to Somaliland, I acknowledge that Taiwan and Kosovo are not UN observer states, while the State of Palestine is, so I will not object to Palestine being listed separately and in unbolded roman font. That leaves Taiwan, Kosovo, Cook Islands, Nieu, and the little-recognized de-facto sovereign states in bold italics, and the dependent territories in unbolded italics, which is fine with me so long as the explanation in the introductory paragraph as to the difference between the entities in bold italics is maintained. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 20:18, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Ok we have a deal Talatastan (talk) 00:02, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. NO. Two editors, one of whom is the proposer, does not a WP:CONSENSUS make. If you want to establish a real consensus, then you should stop using edit requests. As you were informed above, this is a type of question that edit requests, which are for fundamentally non-controversial edits, are unsuited. You need to wait for a discussion to play out, preferably through a well-notified WP:RFC Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:52, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 June 2018

Hi,

I am formally requesting that Palestine be part of the "observer states" category as well as vatican city apart from the 193 UN member states and the PRS (partially recognized states). In addition, the Republic of China and Kosovo may be included here as well depending on your discretion. For both observer and member states, I request the removal of all italicization, and the rest may be italicized. I am not proposing this in order to pursue a pro Palestinian agenda, I am proposing this solely and purely due to facts on the ground, as Palestine's and Vatican's recognition is closer to 193 member states than to the partially recognized states, and both are considered formal countries within the UN system as "non member observer states". ONCE AGAIN, I reiterate that I am promoting a purely NPOV based on level of world recognition and status within UN, and Taiwan and Kosovo MAY be included in this category IF DESIRABLE.

sources:

http://www.un.org/en/sections/member-states/non-member-states/index.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2017/01/palestine-growing-recognition-170115201330185.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-self-declared-nations-you-wont-see-at-the-un-2014-9 Talatastan (talk) 13:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. You have been advised about this more than once above, so I won't respond further. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 15:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Capital of Sri Lanka

The capital of Sri Lanka should be Kotte, not Colombo. 221.222.216.55 (talk) 06:52, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Vatican City

Vatican City in Latin is "Civitas Vaticana", not "E Civitate Vaticana" (which means "From Vatican City") --Jonah☎ 19:00, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 August 2018

I noticed that the languages listed for Malaysia have some incorrect links: clicking on "Mandarin Chinese" or on "Tamil" both send users to the page on "Malaysian language". 192.195.24.50 (talk) 22:58, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done Danski454 (talk) 13:20, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 July 2019

Palestine must be grouped with un states as it is a un observer like vatican and recognized by over 70% of its members Lo meiin (talk) 06:22, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

It simply is not the case that the State of Palestine "must be grouped" with generally recognized sovereign states just because it is a UN observer state. The fact that Vatican City and the State of Palestine are both "observer states" of the UN, when the former is a state whose sovereignty is not disputed by anyone and who would be a UN member but for its preference to remain as an observer (as Switzerland did from 1946 to 2002) and the latter is a disputed state whose sovereignty is not recognized by 11 of the 14 countries with the highest GDP (among the top 14 economies, only China, India and Russia recognize Palestine; the U.S., Japan, Germany, the UK, France, Italy, Brazil, Canada, South Korea, Spain and Australia have yet to recognize Palestine) and whose application for UN membership was (for all practical purposes) rejected just a few years ago, is all the proof one needs that being an observer state of the UN is not tantamount to recognition of sovereignty by the members of the UN; heck, three of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, which have a veto right over any issue of importance, have refused to recognize Palestine, and one permanent member of the Security Council (China) has refused to recognize Vatican City. Besides, observer-state status does not give such states any voting rights that UN members enjoy; being a UN observer state does grant the state the right to join UN specialized agencies, but, then again, Kosovo and the two New Zealand associated states also have been granted membership to certain UN specialized agencies. So the fact that Palestine, but not Kosovo, is a UN observer state is not much on which one can hang one's hat. I know that it's preferable to find a bright-line rule, but if such rule is contingent upon treating UN observer states as if they were UN member states it becomes arbitrary.

The fact remains that, while Palestine has received substantial recognition of sovereignty, falls far short of general international recognition, as it is not recognized by any G7 country, nor by most EU countries, nor by most major economies; by contrast, each of the 193 UN member states plus Vatican City are recognized by nearly all countries in such groups. When Palestine applied for UN membership, it withdrew its application when it became clear that it would be rejected by the UN Security Council. When Palestine is admitted as a member state of the UN, or when it has achieved recognition not just by a large majority of small countries, but also by a large majority of major economies (even if it continues to be blocked from UN membership), then it should be grouped with states with general international recognition.

In the meantime, I share the sentiment held by proponents of the State of Palestine here in Wikipedia that it is wrong to group Palestine with de facto states with little or no international recognition such as Abkhazia or Northern Cyprus. For this reason, I support the compromise reached by consensus several years ago of grouping Kosovo, Palestine, Taiwan and Western Sahara--each a de facto state with substantial, but not general, international recognition--together in a separate category. While these four de facto sovereign states do not come close to the level of international recognition enjoyed by, say, Slovenia or Bhutan, neither are they completely or overwhelmingly unrecognized states like Somaliland or Transnitria. I want Wikipedia to be a source of unbiased information to which children and adults may look to learn about the world around us, and that includes being honest when assessing the levels of recognition enjoyed by sovereign states.

I welcome comments from all interested editors and trust that we can reach a consensus. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 01:35, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Melmann 14:33, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Equatorial Guinea

Equatorial Guinea has 3 official languages: Spanish, French and Portuguese. Therefore, the native name should be included in all 3 languages.

http://cesge.org/index.php/leyes/category/8-leyes-fundamentales?download=116:constituciones

187.94.250.126 (talk) 17:22, 21 October 2019 (UTC) Equa-guineense

http://gequatorial.org.br/historia.html

Done. Thanks for pointing out that oversight. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 18:11, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

United States

There is little confusion in writing the name of the United States in Hawaiian.

The name does not have the letter "L". The letter used is "I" uppercase.

The correct name is: ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa

References:

https://search.usa.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=usagov&query=Amelika+Hui+P%C5%AB+%CA%BBIa

https://haw.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%98Amelika_Hui_P%C5%AB_%E2%80%98ia

In this Wikipedia article about native names, the name is spelled wrong.

Wrong name: Amelika Hui Pū ‘la

187.94.250.22 (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Good catch! I have changed it to "Amelika Hui Pū ‘ia", with a lower-case "i", because the "United States" article in Hawaiian-language Wikipedia spells it with a lower-case "i" and I want to be consistent. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 20:49, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

OR

Article lead appears to define, without sourcing, " Internationally recognized sovereign states" (note that this actually links to

List of sovereign states), as being UN member states and one particular non member state. (this is also POV).Selfstudier (talk) 14:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2019

Change Namibia x5 to Namibia, because writing Namibia 5x is tedious and if it's universal in all the official languages, then someone should be able to just write Namibia.

Ⲙᄉςи Σιⲛꝛι1 00:57, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

For the entymology of the United States: États-Unis (Indigenous) comes from which language? indigenous is such a general term, is it in Navajo? Cherokee?, any of the Iroquoian languages?

Ⲙᄉςи Σιⲛꝛι1 01:08, 3 December 2019 (UTC) Ⲙᄉςи Σιⲛꝛι1 01:12, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Update: OMG its in French, so change indigenous to french — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacySinrich (talk

 Partly done: Re: Namibia: As with other country names, there is one "row" per language.

Re: United States: I have added a "row" for the "Indigenous" languages to clarify that "États-Unis" lines up with "Cajun French", but there are hundreds of indigenous languages in the U.S. and Canada, so we would need a whole separate article to list the names for the United States in those languages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:07, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

How come Nepal has one name for the two languages, and not namibia. Also Cajun French isn't indigenous

Ⲙᄉςи Σιⲛꝛι1 01:08, 3 December 2019 (UTC) Ⲙᄉςи Σιⲛꝛι1 01:12, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 December 2019

Please add the endonyms and capitals for the 4 separate countries that make up the United Kingdom, as they are not currently represented on this list. The four countries are as follows

Wales is known as Cymru in the native Welsh. Its capital city is Cardiff, which is known as Caerdydd in Welsh. England is known internally as England. Its capital city is London Scotland is known as Alba in Scots Gaelic, and Scotland in Scots. Its capital city is Edinburgh, which is known as Dùn Èideann in Scots Gaelic, and Edinburgh in Scots Northern Ireland is known as Tuaisceart Éireann in Irish, and Norlin Airlann in Ulster Scots. Its capital city is Belfast, known as Béal Feirste in Irish, and Bilfawst, Bilfaust, or Baelfawst in Ulster Scots

Please add these 4 separate countries to the list StKit200 (talk) 16:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:48, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't notice the above request before, but it's actuallysomewhat reasonable... AnonMoos (talk) 13:41, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 January 2020

Official or native language(s) (alphabet/script) Escapest (talk) 03:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. - Jonesey95 (talk) 05:00, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 May 2020

The reference for Bulgaria (which by the way, like most of the other references on this article, probably ought to be a note, rather than a reference, but it doesn't really matter.) The reference for Bulgaria is supposed to apply to Russia too. You can see that it used to apply to both of them in this old version of the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_and_dependencies_and_their_capitals_in_native_languages&oldid=9215627

But it looks like years ago someone changed the formatting of the Bulgaria note, and forgot to change it for Russia too. In order to get it to apply to both of them again, please go to the Bulgaria section and change: <ref> to: <ref name=BulgariaRussia>

Then go to the Russia section and change: ¹ to:

You might have to look at the coding of this comment to see what the change should actually be. Thank you. 2603:9000:E408:4800:BDBD:6DDA:C1B1:2D58 (talk) 01:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Aasim 03:06, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 November 2020

It's pretty clear that the English and Marshallese names have been inadvertently swapped for the Marshall Islands. This is for both the "Country (endonym)" and "Capital (endonym)" columns. It should be:

Country (exonym)	Capital (exonym)	Country (endonym)	Capital (endonym)	Official or native language(s) (alphabet/script)
Marshall Islands	Majuro	Marshall Islands Aorōkin Ṃajeḷ	Majuro Mājro	English Marshallese

BuckeyeSmithie (talk) 16:41, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

To editor BuckeyeSmithie:  done, and thank you very much! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 00:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 February 2021

I suggest changing the spelling for North Korea endonym capital to "Pyongyang" because that is how it is spelled on the WikiPedia page for this capital city (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang). KyleJHendrickson (talk) 15:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done BRD — xaosflux ^Talk 11:28, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 February 2021

Change “Երեվան” to “Երևան.” The capital of Armenia is not spelled as “Երեվան.” (This can only be the case when it is written in all caps: ԵՐԵՎԱՆ, otherwise, we use the ligature “և” and not the “եվ” combination. Consult the Armenian Wikipedia for the city if needed. Արման Մարտիրոսյան (talk) 01:44, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Hi, Արման Մարտիրոսյան. According to the Wikipedia page here – Yerevan – the spelling you cite is "classical". Not sure what that means exactly. I'm setting this request to answered=yes for now. Once you've replied, please set it back to answered=no. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 05:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Wait, sorry, I got it wrong. I'll change this for you now, hold on. DesertPipeline (talk) 05:31, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Done, thank you. DesertPipeline (talk) 05:36, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 August 2021

Replace {{flag|Afghanistan}} with {{noflag|[[Afghanistan]]}}, since the Taliban officially banned the flag. 2409:4061:2DC1:4376:5A48:610D:EA0D:DF12 (talk) 11:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Arabic name of East Jerusalem has an incorrect transliteration

The Arabic name for East Jerusalem is القدس الشرقية, which is romanized as Al-Quds Al-Sharqiya, and not Al-Quds Al-Sharqit. Yejvik (talk) 15:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 January 2022

The official languages in eSwatini are English and Swati no Swazi. It's a "t" not a "z". 41.13.8.133 (talk) 05:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done The English Wikipedia uses this word (see article Swazi language). Signed, IAmChaos 09:55, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Ukraine entry

The exonym for Kyiv should be noted as Kiev, given that Kyiv is a romanization of the Ukrainian endonym. 186.64.250.48 (talk) 06:25, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Expansion of Table to Include Language Endonyms & Nationality Exo-/Endo-nyms

Greetings Wikipedia Community!

I appreciate both this table and the efforts of all those who have endeavored to accurately document place names beyond the English exonyms ascribed to them. By reviewing the Talk section, I understand there is already feedback about how large and unwieldy the table has become for editing purposes. Nevertheless, I'd like to request (& participate in!) its expansion by 3 columns to include the language endonym(s) as well as the English exonym and endonym(s) for nationality (vs. ethnicity).

First, there has been some Talk debate around the inclusion of native names for languages, by adding a column for linguo-endonymns adjacent to the English linguo-exonym in both native and romanized script, the table becomes both more exhaustive and less controversial. Second, adding nationality would round out the table allowing interested parties to understand how citizens of the included territories refer to themselves in their native languages.

Format:

Country: Eng. Exonym | Endonym || Capital: Eng. Exonym | Endonym || Nationality: Eng. Exonym | Endonym || Language(s): Eng. Exonym | Endonym

Par example:

Hungary | Magyarország || Budapest | Budapest || Hungarian | Magyar || Hungarian | Magyarul

Each column would complete the following sentences (offering masculine/feminine demonyms as necessary):

I am from Hungary. I live in the capital Budapest. I am a Hungarian. I speak Hungarian. Magyarország(-ról) származom. A fővárosban élek, Budapest(-en). Magyar vagyok. Beszélek Magyarul.

To my mind this also creates space for each country, capital, nationality & language (for as many local languages as appropriate) to be written in traditional and Roman script as well as feature a pronunciation link allowing all to hear the word regardless of comfort with the script used.

For example (forgive a lack of familiarity with Georgian):

Georgia | Sakartvelo (საქართველოდან) [Audio Link] || Tbilisi | Tbilisshi (თბილისში) [Audio Link] || Georgian | Kartveli (ქართველი) [Audio Link] || Georgian | Kartulad (ქართულად) [Audio Link]

Again (read for intent, not proficiency):

I am from Georgia. I live in the capital city, Tbilisi. I am a Georgian. I speak Georgian. Me Sakartvelo(-dan) var. Vtskhovrob dedakalak Tbilisshi. Me Kartveli var. Me vlap’arak’ob Kartulad. მე საქართველოდან ვარ. ვცხოვრობ დედაქალაქ თბილისში. მე ქართველი ვარ. მე ვლაპარაკობ ქართულად.

I am a bit crestfallen each time I watch an athlete compete/win a medal in a global sporting championship in a kit emblazoned with an English exonym. I have no illusions about thwarting the ongoing dominance of English Exonyms. But for those, like me, who would rather be excited for a Norsk-speaking Norsk biathlete from Oslo winning gold for Norge, I think the expansion of this brilliant table could be an edifying resource.

This post has been written in good faith with human error and gratitude for all the efforts that preceded my suggestion. I hope it will be received as such.

Cheers, G — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:33C9:77E0:55CB:B456:DE2F:3845 (talk) 23:20, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Criteria for Inclusion

I've noticed lots of discussion (and editing without any discussion) regarding what "countries" should or shouldn't be included. When I originally created this article, my intent was to use Wikipedia's list of countries as the basis for inclusion, which includes de jure and de facto states, dependent territories, disputed states, and special entities such as Hong Kong & Kosovo. I think this is a pretty reasonable criterion. Hope this helps. -- Sampo Torgo ^[talk]

Ok, changed my mind

I thought since scripts were present in the links to country pages, it didn't matter, but it does look good. Check them, though. I'm not too familiar w/ Arabic or Chinese. Asterisks could work, esp. in the format I did now, with columns. -- Sampo Torgo ^[talk]

Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland

Starting again at this topic. Why don't we add Friesland (has a separatist movement too), Flanders, Wallonia, Quebec, Catalonia, Bavaria, Tyrol, etc, etc, etc. or my own nation, Gelderland, a former duchy which was conquered by Charles V in 1543, loosing its independence inside the Holy Roman Empire. The idea of limiting the list to

• Sovereign states (according to the article List of sovereign states
• dependent territories and some disputed or occupied areas

is clear. I would suggest not to include parts of countries, since then we can have long debates and disputes. -- Gangulf 20:27, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC) The four nations of the UK are not parts of a country, but separate nations that form a larger entity. I think they are a special case in this way. From Wikipedia's entry for Wales: "(wales) is one of the four major nations comprising the United Kingdom (UK)." (my emphasis) The UK is a kingdom of four nations. That's how I've always seen it. You do make a good point about including only some disputed areas and not others, but I think these 4 qualify on the basis of their unique situation. Anyone else care tp weigh in? -- Sampo Torgo ^[talk]

I agree that the four are the historical nations forming the UK, but they have less autonomy then most states inside federations. England doesn't even have a legislature. The question is, what is a nation. There are far more nations then states or sovereign countries. Be complete or not. If you add England, Scotland and Wales, ypu should really add the Nations that form Spain, Germany, the Russian federation etc. It just doesn't make sense. -- Gangulf 05:31, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

...less autonomy then most states inside federations - but a lot more autonomy than several of the places listed. No to Scotland and yes to Svalbard? Crazy. No to Wales and yes to Wallis and Futuna??? Complete madness. Grutness|^hello? 13:48, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

America

America is not an official short name of the country, but it is either the United States of America or the United States. America is the name for the two continents North and South America. When somebody lives in America, he might live in Canada, Chile or the United States. So America should be listed as a short name for the United States. --Gangulf 22:50, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

This is a list of countries and what they are called by natives of the countries. Just as Congo-Kinshasa and Congo-Brazzaville both claim "Congo" as their name, or PRC and Taiwan both claim "China." The fact that "America" is ambiguous and somewhat inaccurate doesn't change the fact that every American (or should I say United Statesian?) considers the name of the country to be "America."-- Sampo Torgo ^[talk] 23:15, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Talking of country names...

While we're on the subject of country names, why are the U.S.Virgin Islands listed under V? "Virgin Islands" is the name of the entire group, which is divided between the U.S. Virgin Islands and the British Virgin islands - as is stated in the article at Virgin Islands. Please move the U.S. Virgin Islands to their proper place. Grutness|^hello? 13:53, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Languages

Which languages qualify as suitable for inclusion? Official ones only, or are notable non-official languages appropriate here, too? In other words, will anyone mind if I add a couple of the latter? -- Naive cynic 21:33, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC) When I created this list, I started with just official languages, but I (and others) have added some that are not strictly official, but are spoken by a significant portion of natives. -- Sampo Torgo ^[talk] 01:38, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

~good portion of south-west USA speaks spanish as a first language (no not immigrants)...weird it was not in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.165.64 (talk) 12:54, 20 May 2014 (UTC)