Talk:List of aviation incidents involving terrorism

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List inclusion criteria[edit]

What are the inclusion criteria for this list? Does it, for example, include the El Al Flight 426 hijacking? What about Air New Zealand Flight 2279 or events on American Airlines Flight 63 in 2001? Also, is it limited to commercial aircraft or do we include all the aviation accidents and incidents from the "War on Terror" in Afghanistan and elsewhere? The criteria need to be fairly strict and clear, otherwise every security incident to stop hijackers, shoe bombers or similar deranged people will get listed. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 04:57, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent lead section[edit]

After leaving the above comments, I noticed the description in the lead section says these are incidents caused by terrorism, while the title says the inclusion is incidents involving terrorism. This is inconsistent. An incident involving terrorism, is not the same as an incident caused by terrorism, because the purpose of the incident might be to cause terror, not react to it. This is a matter of causality. Does terrorism lead to the incident occurring, if so, then the Security Control of Air Traffic and Air Navigation Aids that was implemented in response to the September 11 attacks, along with the Canadian response, Operation Yellow Ribbon should be on the list, and the hijacked flights, and perhaps all the other flights, too should be omitted. However, if one is including the motivations of the perpetrators then one needs to have evidence that they intended to cause terror, and not just kill themselves in a grand statement of suicide, like happened with Ansett Australia Flight 232. Saying the incidents listed were caused by terrorism does not make sense to me, although saying the incident had a terrorist intent or motive, does. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 05:36, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]