Talk:List of United States Navy oilers

Merge proposal

I think this would fit fairly well as an expansion of Replenishment oiler. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 22:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

The term Replenishment Oiler refers to the United States Fleet Oiler hull AOE and should not be merged.Navyoiler (talk) 15:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Editor

As a stylistic thing, I think it would be better to discuss the actual content of the Powerpoint slides here in prose -- this is the perfect place to do it, after all -- and have the link to the slides as a reference. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 03:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Prose

I'm not sure what that means but it sounds like it could take some time, but I have plenty of that. Oh, and I guess I have to wait a couple days before I can add the two images I need. So, Where do you live PranksterTurtle? I live in a suburb of Seattle, Washington. You have been very helpful. Navyoiler (talk) 05:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm a native Baltimoron currently going to school closer to DC. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 22:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Page Title

I need to change this page "Navy Oiler" to Fleet Replenishment Oiler which is the true Navy hull description for AO. The name "Fleet Oiler" is now auto transfered to "Oil Tanker" which is an incorrect comparison.

Also "Fleet Replenishment Oiler" auto transfers to "Replenishment Oiler" which is also an incorrect comparison. Read Replenishment Oiler Discussion page.

Please have "Fleet Replenishment Oiler" released for my use.Navyoiler (talk) 15:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Image Load Help

I have posted a request for help in loading two images for this file. I used the toolbox, Upload file link, went to Support help, created a request "Upload Image" and saved the subject to that help page. Now I can't even find that request file, it was in the company of about seven other requests. Navyoiler (talk) 15:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, uploading files for the first time is quite challenging. Your file can be found here: File:Kawishiwi-1956.jpg. You'll need to edit the file's page (which can be done by clicking here) to add appropriate copyright information, or else it will be deleted within 7 days of uploading. You can look at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/All for a list of all copyright tags and choose the one that applies. You can then add it to the file and remove the missing copyright tag. --CapitalR (talk) 07:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

T-AOT vs T-AO

It appears that some of the ships listed in the T-AOT section never carried this designation. They were in fact T-AO ships. It appears that they may have been dropped into the T-AOT section simply because they possessed a MSC "T" prefix. I propose moving these ships to the AO section. Thoughts?

Thanks Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 21:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Done Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

United States Navy facts

I propose removing this section for the following reasons:

1. All the citations are deadlinks
2. Many of the ships are not oilers
3. Maintaining it appears to be impossible
4. If it can be saved it would be better moved to the underway replenishment article

Thoughts anyone? Thanks Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 00:42, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

OPDS: LCM vs LCU

SS Potomac (T-AOT-181), note the green LCM or LCU on the center deck for use for deploying the OPDS hoses

SS Chesapeake (AOT-5084), note the green LCM or LCU on the deck aft of center

The only reference I have found regarding past use of the offshore petroleum discharge system (OPDS) as used on tankers states (at Global Security.org) that these ships carried LCM-6s to deploy the hoses ashore. However, the photos all show craft more of the size of the LCU, and a 2020 Naval Institute article advocates use of the latest LCUs for OPDS work.

What to do about this? I would like to say that the photos obviously depict LCUs aboard Potomac and Chesapeake, and proper references should merely confirm this. Conversely, the photos obviously contradict the Global Security reference. Can I change the text based just on the photos?

BTW, I've measured the image lengths of the ships and the craft on deck in the photos, and applied the ratios to the published ship lengths; the Potomac landing craft length is @ 134 feet (right on the money for a LCU 1610 or LCU 1627) and the Chesapeake landing craft length is @ 184 (a bit high, perhaps due to the slant of the image). Is noting something obvious in published photos Original Research? Sometimes WP policy makes my head spin.

Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 17:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC) Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 17:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

OK, I've changed LCM to LCU based on WP:OBVIOUS , in this article, the LCU article, and the List of USN Amphibious Warfare Vessels. Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 16:45, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I have found sources online that state what appears to be an LCU is in fact the SALM component of the OPDS, newly found photos show it does NOT appear to be an LCU, and in fact it was custom made for this mission. So the LCUs go back to LCMs despite the fact that they do not appear on deck in the images. Tfdavisatsnetnet 02:03, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

References