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What distinguishes a Crow from a Raven? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.150.211 (talk) 19:16, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Distinguishing Ravens from Crows[edit]

There are 9 species of ravens. First off, ravens are larger then crows, usually with much larger and thicker beaks. The nasal bristles of ravens are more noticeable and extend farther down the beak then that of crows. Many species of ravens eventually grow a small hook at the end of the beak, there are not many species of crows that get this. The throat hackles (throat feathers) of ravens are much longer then those of crows, which often lack throat hackles entirely. The primary feathers of ravens are normally pointed, as opposed to crows, which are normally rounded. While the tail feathers of most raven species are rounded, a lot of crows have pointed tail feathers. Ravens have proportionally longer wings and often wedge-shaped or rounded tails. With crows, the opposite is true. Crows have proportionally longer tails, which are normally cut-off, with a slight indentation in the middle. Most, if not all, raven species have extendable feathers above their legs. When fluffed, these resemble "pants". When crows are at rest, their tail feathers are clearly longer then their primaries, which often have a short, curved feather before the feathers at the very end of the wing. This creates a noticeable niche. When ravens are at rest, their primaries are the same length of their tail feathers, if not longer. There is no niche in the primary feathers. In flight, ravens tend to glide much more then flap. With crows, the opposite is also true, and they can normally only ever be seen gliding when landing. Ravens are much stockier then crows, which thicker legs and feet. Crows often have short, "sticky" legs, with proportionally long, slim toes. Ravens talons are much longer, larger and sharper then the talons of crows, which are normally so small as to be almost unnoticeable. Most, if not all, species of raven have grey to light-grey feather bases. Feather bases of crows are normally snow white. I could go on forever about the differences between crows and ravens, but I wont for the sake of whoever is reading this. I hope you find this helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LinkyWulfe (talk • contribs) 05:46, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The little raven is smaller than the carrion crow. The Torresian crow is more closely related to the little raven than it is to the carrion crow. As covered before the difference is a vernacular one not a biological one. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:18, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The correct thing to do would be list the species in taxonomic order based on some recent molecular work. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:21, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Former species[edit]

I note there is a disagreement about this. See here and here. Note of these species are remotely considered members of the genus now, and we could include the magpie, which Linnaeus called Corvus pica in the first instance I guess. Comments below on whether to keep or remove them. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:35, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think if such species are included in this way it needs to be made very clear what the context is (long ago, less species, in some cases before families existed). It's less useful than recent splits/contentious splits, and shouldn't be worded in the same way. Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:16, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Synonyms on the species page, with a redirect would be a good place to keep the info. I agree the info is now considered pretty remote....Pvmoutside (talk) 13:49, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures?[edit]

Wouldn't images make this article more useful? - Jmabel | Talk 15:26, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Corvid"[edit]

Is corvid used in taxonomy to describe crow like birds, or is it equivalent to this designation? Nagelfar (talk) 18:58, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It means member of Corvidae Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:05, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, it's for the entire family, not just this genus. oknazevad (talk) 19:59, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]