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Twice Blessed (1945) came first?[edit]

A lesser-known movie called Twice Blessed ( http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=94122 ) came out before this book, and has a similar, if not identical plot (twin sisters are separated as children, but reunited as teens and secretly switch places, bringing their estranged parents together). I would like to research more about this; perhaps the writer was influenced by watching this movie? Or there is another story pre-existing both of these with twin sisters switching their identities and bringing the parents back together ( I choose these points carefully because "the prince and the pauper" has a similar twin switching, but the estranged-parent element is the mutation that has become prevalent through this movie, the book, and the two Disney remakes, making the origin of this mutation the point of interest) 173.30.9.30 (talk) 04:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Three Smart Girls, I suppose? Not sure whether it involves any twins, but otherwise the plot seems to be similar, and it is, together with this novel, listed as a basis to The Parent Trap; and at 1936, it predates both the novel and Twice Blessed! --85.141.150.221 (talk) 19:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Films[edit]

Is It Takes Two from 1995 based on the book? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.249.102.252 (talk) 20:38, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Connections to other Works[edit]

In the French-English crime drama "The Tunnel" [[1]], in season 2 episode 6, French Detective Elise Wassermann (Clémence Poésy) receives a package. Inside is a book titled ‘Deux pour une‘, one of the French versions of this story. I would like to see this (and other) reference included in the article. Jopower (talk) 11:30, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not the same story[edit]

Twice Blessed (film) (1945) is not the same story: they are know each other: the film is from 1945, the actresses are from 1922, and the article writes they are separated 7 years ago. Three Smart Girls (1936) so: the article writes: "three sisters who travel to New York City to prevent their father from remarrying. The three plot to bring their divorced parents back together again".

In the list of films, I found 2 films what are not the same story: they are identical looking strangers: It Takes Two (1995 film), Tur & retur. Maybe there are a lot of films in the list what have not the same story. Same story: Germans: 1950, 1993, 2007, 2017. Japan: Hibari no komoriuta (1951). "The Parent Trap": there are a lot of films with this title, films from 1961 and 1998 have the same story. X00000 (talk) 20:48, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 May 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. The moved discussion was open for fifteen days with no oppose, and according to the comment by user:Roman Spinner. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:17, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lottie and Lisa → Lisa and Lottie – The characters' names have been published this way round in the title in the United States since at least 1969 as well as in the current official title there so there is the potential that those introduced to the novel over the past five decades might be more familiar with this title. In trying to determine the most common name in English as per WP:COMMONNAME, I ran a Google Trends comparison (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=Lisa%20and%20Lottie,Lottie%20and%20Lisa) but searches for both titles as a search term have been at roughly equal levels over the past year as well as the past five years which makes it difficult. I filtered my search to results from the US on account of it having the largest population of English speakers and the novel having no strong local ties to any English-speaking countries having been written by a German author and being set in Germany and Austria. Another reason for my filtering of results from the US is because the novel is currently published in the United Kingdom and Australia under a different title (The Parent Trap) in use there since 2014 so more recent readers from there might be more familiar with it. I have wondered if the continued use of the older title could be influenced by the 1961 Parent Trap film but on further inspection the title for the novel it is based on is given as "Das doppelte Lottchen", which is the German original, both in the original film and the 1998 remake. The persistence of the older title could be down to use by the mainstream media but those articles could have been written by older generations introduced to the novel by its older title or they could be referring to the original English language edition. Tk420 (talk) 10:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Megan B.... ^{It’s all coming to me} till the end of time 10:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per strongly researched nomination. Book covers do indeed display both titles, but the argument in favor of the nominated form — Lisa and Lottie — predominates. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:59, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.