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I'm sure Yekimov is a better transliteration, but does it comply with WP:RUS? It says: "Example: the article on figure skater Александр Геннадиевич Зайцев is located at Alexander Gennadiyevich Zaitsev (not "Zaytsev"), because 'Zaitsev' is the English spelling used by the International Skating Union, Figure Skating Federation of Russia, and in other publications about the person (ref)." All official ISSF documents have Ekimov. The American news sources that sometimes do use Yekimov (ABS-CBN, NBC) seem to all use Ekimov more frequently. But of course, this might be due to sheer ignorance. -- Jao (talk) 19:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, whatever decision we arrive at will probably affect the surname of Mikhail Nestruev as well. -- Jao (talk) 19:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. You are right about the frequency of use in ISSF documents but English-language websites and documents of many organizations absolutely ignore correct versions of sportspeoples' names, diacritics etc. Then it's Wikipedia here which can, in this and similar cases, present more correct romanization of Russian. I see no problem with both names, though Yefimov is more correct and also helps readers to pronounce it more correctly. - Darwinek (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it has its advantages, I just thought it might have ramifications for the policy and for many other articles, so I wanted to point this out; perhaps we would be better off taking this to Wikipedia talk:Romanization of Russian? I know all too well about ignoring correct names – I'm the one who has been changing "Zuzana Stefecekova" to "Zuzana Štefečeková" and "Gundegmaa Otryad" to "Otryadyn Gündegmaa" all over the place, and doing so very contrary to any Google test. Transliteration is a bit different, but using one that reflects the correct pronunciation (with the proper redirects, of course) is definitely a good idea. -- Jao (talk) 21:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bringing it to WP:RUS is a bad idea I think. There are many articles needing more correct romanization and the dillemma is almost always the same as pointed above. I see no controversies in these renames. - Darwinek (talk) 22:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hm. I had assumed as much but for that Zaitsev example, but now I checked Zaitsev's talk page and the example seems highly outdated: the article was moved to Zaytsev in September 2007, the move was reverted, and the reverter was fairly quickly convinced that moving was not a bad idea, for some reason the move just wasn't carried out again. If we can strike the example from WP:RUS without controversy, I would be pleased. And then also, Mikhail Nestruev should be moved to Mikhail Nestruyev, no? -- Jao (talk) 22:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely agree. During the last year I moved many articles according to WP:RUS and no one had some objections. Only one user was confused about the move and asked me what is going on. I think editors are tolerant and understand the peculiarities of names, especially of those Eastern European. After all I moved only the ones with "E" "Ye" and similar, as in Yekimov or Nestruyev cases. "Sergei"/"Sergey" is not a hot issue for me as it doesn't much affect the pronunciation as the "E"/"Ye"/"Yo" cases do. - Darwinek (talk) 16:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
