Talk:Lawrence Realization Stakes

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This is one of the oldest and most important races for Thoroughbreds in America. All other important races are not questioned, why this one?JiggeryPokery (talk) 05:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added references, and the fact that it is considered a very notable historic race which a great many famous horses have won over the years. I've added all winners. JiggeryPokery (talk) 06:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Contradictions[edit]

  • 1. 3rd Paragraph History Section: The stakes were run at Aqueduct Racetrack in 1959 and 1961, and again from 1918 to 1969 First statement implies the Aqueduct Racetrack was run as a one off in 1959, whilst the second has it run there from 1918 through till 1969 (which obviously includes the two highlighted dates.
  • 2. Records Section: Man O' War is indicated as "shattering the work record" over 1⅝ miles, setting a time of 2:40 4/5 (or 2:40:80), but later Battle Joined is stated as the speed record holder over the same distance.

--Haruth (talk) 23:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested Additions[edit]

  • What was the purse, that made the race so prestigious?
  • Run by colts, fillys or geldings?
  • Why the changing lengths? Did length change with venue?

--Haruth (talk) 23:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was the distance (an eighth of a mile longer than the Belmont Stakes when it was run at 1 5/8 miles over most of its history), rather than the purse, which made it prestigious; it was the longest 3-year-old race on the calendar. I added that the only restriction was age, although to the best of my knowledge a filly never won and few probably ran. Again as far as I know, the length decreased in recent years. With more emphasis on speed and less on stamina, it became more difficult to attract quality horses; the Display Handicap – at one time a 2¼-mile marathon – was another casualty. Wi2g 03:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]