Talk:Laundry Service (album)

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the international success of Colombian singer songwriter Shakira's English-language debut album Laundry Service led to a critic deeming her the "biggest female crossover artist since Jennifer Lopez"?

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Worldwide Sales[edit]

Although the article has a cited source of the album having sold 13 million copies worldwide, I think we should go with the sales figure found on Shakira's official website which states that the album has sold 20 million copies worldwide.

Link: http://www.shakira.com/music/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.238.48.237 (talk) 04:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell me where is what sold the 20 million?, when I enter the page only the albums and their list of songs come out. I don't see where they explain the 20 million.Alejandro Ortiz 15 (talk) 23:32, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics[edit]

„The lyrics of some of the songs are a little bizarre, which has led to some criticism” -- I'll remove this until someone finds other source than amiright.com which is basically a site where people are making fun of lyrics. Alensha 14:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

Servicio de lavandería, Laundry Service and Laundry Service: Washed & Dried are different editions of the same recording session. All three should be merged to one single article. - Oskarg956 07:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sales[edit]

Could someone with a little more interest in the album read [1] and other relevant sources and sort out the sales figures, with proper references? Thanks. Nimmo 12:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Laundry Service.jpg[edit]

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Bad writing[edit]

"Shakira Was canceled the single of the new and english version Eyes Like Yours/Ojos Asi in 2005 but Shakira says was a next alnum in 2005"

...really? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.162.122.5 (talk) 23:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

/* Critical reception */ WP:UNDUE?[edit]

Is the Rolling Stone Lechner review being given WP:UNDUE? Although it should be covered, it seems that the article is giving it too much emphasis compared to other reviews, who seem to be more positive. Now this might be because Lechner's familiarity with Shakira's Spanish language albums, which the other reviewers might not be familiar with or linguistically qualified to comment on, but if this is the case, it should be stated as such while reducing the emphasis on Lechner's review.

-- J. Wong (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Laundry Service[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Laundry Service's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "allmusic":

From Livin' la Vida Loca: Billboard Singles. Retrieved January 21, 2011.
From Michael Jackson: Huey, Steve. "Michael Jackson—Biography". Allmusic. Retrieved November 11, 2006.
From Diorama (album): Torreano, Bradley (30 July 2002). "Diorama - Silverchair". AllMusic. Retrieved 2011-08-15.
From Britpop: Explore: Britpop. Allmusic.com. Retrieved on 21 January 2011.
From A New Day Has Come: Erlewine, Stephen Thomas. "A New Day Has Come > Overview". Allmusic. Retrieved 2012-08-27.
From Life for Rent: Erlewine, Stephen T. "allmusic ((( Life For Rent - Overview )))". Rovi Corporation. Allmusic. Retrieved 2010-02-17. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
From Under Rug Swept: "Under Rug Swept". Allmusic. Retrieved 2012-03-12.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Misc. info[edit]

Just some info that I need to share.

#3 in Argetina
#2 in Spain (Note, the current source for PROMUSICAE only shows 2006, not 2002)
#1 on the European Top 100 Albums chart.
US Year-End chart (Also has European Top 100 year-end chart on page 56)
Argentine Year-end chart
3 Premios Oye nominations
Won 2 awards

I can search for certification next if you like. Erick (talk) 08:07, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all the information! I'm including all of them one by one. And thanks for working on the certs too!--WonderBoy1998 (talk) 14:46, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just found this: It won Premio del Pueblo on the Pop/Rock category at the Premio Lo Nuestro 2002 (source; [2] ) See article for more info. Erick (talk) 11:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done all --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 17:34, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just one more: Juno Awards. Erick (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 15:58, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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World Sales[edit]

On the singer's facebook as well as on her website she places about 20 million copies of her album: Laundry Service I think we should take both of them as reliable sources since other pages have a very outdated account. I would like to know some answer. Links: https://www.facebook.com/5027904559/posts/10150830049184560 and the other link:https://www.shakira.com/music. Thank u Alejandro Ortiz 15 (talk) 22:50, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alejandro Ortiz 15: Twitter should be avoided per WP:SOCIALMEDIA and the same goes to Shakira.com. I know we have reliable and third-party sources citing the 20 million. But, that's an "important figure" and have been discussed before that this album doesn't meet the requirements. With 8.5/9.7M certified and available sales, the current gap of 3.3 million from its claim of 13 million is in the line of the average for a 2001 album. Now, if you change it to the 20 million claim, you're double the gap from its certified/available sales, something that it's clearly inflated for any album released since that period (maybe we have exceptions, idk) and considering only sold under 4 million in the US. Regards, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 04:39, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it was a question that I had in the same way I hope that Shakira's sales are updated to see the pure sales of her albums and singles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alejandro Ortiz 15 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sales certificaded[edit]

Hi, On the ChartMaster Laundry Service page it already has 16 million copies, you can use that information to update sales. Please because 13 million copies are very low since 2003. I consider that you take the time to review my information. Link: https://chartmasters.org/2018/04/data-collector-biggest-cspc-albums-of-the-2000s/?fbclid=IwAR2pbaD2iDZhm_hBFcQzj4L-0P1j-1F7XhDZAgiahVL8Z3XQT8qi8uiwHHw, I'll be waiting for an answer AlexanderShakifan29 (talk) 13:43, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@AlexanderShakifan29: In addition to the website being unreliable, these are not the actual sales of the album, they are what is called CSPC sales which is a calculation that the owner of the website add the sales of the album, singles, compilations with the album songs, streamings and videos (VHS/DVD), then he divides and give a total. It can never be used here and be a parameter for anything. The sales of 15 million that are in the article are also exaggerated, the same Chartmasters said that the disc itself has sold 12.7 million in the world until today, there's no necessity to change the 13 million claim.--88marcus (talk) 22:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]