Talk:Landing of the Granma

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This "retired US citizen" business[edit]

Article previously read:

It was purchased for the amount of MX$50,000, from a retired U.S. citizen on 10 October 1956 who had named it for his grandmother.

But, one of the external links [1] says:

En el momento de la compra el propietario era Schuylkill Products Company Inc.
(translated) At the time of purchase the owner was Schuylkill Products Company Inc.

So I have changed this. Just making a note of it here in case this Cuban source turns out to be wrong or missing some detail. –Andyluciano 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts[edit]

Whilst doing some research, I've read wildly differing descriptions of the length of the boat, from 38 foot to 65 foot. I've also read fairly consistent reports that the boat was purchased from one Robert Erickson, an American living in Mexico. I don't know how the Schuylkill Products Company fit into the story other than from the above source. Other than that, I can't think of anymore that can be added to this article. It seems fairly sound and reads well.--Zleitzen 08:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Zleitzen -- I am very glad that you added the equivalent price in US dollars as I have been searching for a trustworthy source for that amount; also, the information about Prío Socarras is a great addition. (And thank you as well for the excellent copyedits/re-works you did.) Like you, I have come across widely disparate statements concerning the Granma's length, but there seems to be a preponderance of opinion in favor of "60 feet", plus personal observation leads me to believe that it is relatively accurate. (Ooops — the dreaded OR!, but my understanding is that such is allowed on the Talk page ...)
BTW did you notice that this article is going to be a "Featured Anniversary" on 2 December, thanks to our co-editor of the CG article User:DakotaKahn who added it to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/December 2 yesterday? I hope to come up with a few more source notes between now and then. -- Polaris999 18:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This year the 2nd of December will of course be the 50th anniversary of the landing itself, and I believe the date will also host Castro's belated 80th birthday party - if he survives that long. Well done for promoting this article - hopefully some exposure might bring more constructive editors to other Cuban articles - though judging by the mayhem that followed Castro's last appearance on the main page, that may be wishful thinking. --Zleitzen 21:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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According to a wiki link on the life of Reed Erickson, "after Robert Erickson's death in 1962, (Reed) Erickson inherited a major interest in the family enterprises, Schuylkill Products Co., Inc., and Schuylkill Lead Corp., and ran them successfully until selling them to Arrow Electronics in 1969 for approximately $5 million. Erickson continued to be financially successful, eventually amassing a personal fortune estimated at over $40 million, most of which came from canny investments in oil-rich real estate. Over a period of years, Erickson's ongoing income was often hundreds of thousands of dollars per month."

So this would be the connection, and possibly the owners death being the event triggering the sale of the Yacht. I did this research trying to make a connection between the sale of the Yacht and any US citizens who might have had an interest in the expedition. So far the sale appears to be routine. RhyoliteAquacade (talk) 04:33, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Questions[edit]

Does anybody else find it strange that 81 people fit into a 60 foot boat? Doesn't seem reasonable. Also, did they stop for fuel anywhere? I can't imagine any small cabin cruiser going 24 hours a day for 7 days on internal fuel only. Assuming two engines at a VERY conservative estimate of10 gallons an hour each, that's 200 gallons a day, for seven days that's 1,400 gallons it needs on board on departure! Aside from the fact that that is 8,400 pounds, over 4 tons of fuel, where would they find space on a 60 foot boat for all that fuel AND 81 people AND all their baggage? Just wondering.....98.183.25.126 (talk) 06:41, 2 December 2016 (UTC) One of the cited accounts said they had 2000 gallons of fuel in jugs on the deck, in addition to the tank, which they wrote the size but I forget. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.69.242 (talk) 05:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Does anyone know where the Cuban Granma boat was built? who built her? and what kind of engines she had? the wikipedia article has very little information on the Granma before Castro bought her. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granma_(yacht) , Does anyone still have the design drawings? Are any classic, wooden boat builders interested in making working copies? Does Granma have any sister ships? Do classic or historic boat enthusiasts have any interest like they do with Dunkirk little ships? https://www.facebook.com/Granma-English-230559647101175/... . Which operating boat most resembles the granma? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.69.242 (talk) 05:48, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Two thousand gallons is 12,000 pounds of fuel, and physically its volume would pretty much occupy the available deck space. I may be wrong about this, but it just seems unrealistic. I would suspect they refueled en route?98.162.136.248 (talk) 05:14, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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