Talk:Kurchaloy

City/Town

This is a misunderstanding related to the translation. We consistently use the same terminology in all articles about Russian localities. For посёлок городского типа we use urban-type settlement, and never town. For город, we normally use town, reserving city for really large cities. Grozny would arguably qualify, but Kurchaloy would not. If you have further questions related to terminology / structure of articles we are using, I will be happy to help.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Great, thanks for correction. My mistake. Only one question for now is: for abandoned villages here, what is used, term "aul" (local word) or another one? Thanks. - Sail 95 (talk)

If I understand your question correctly, Types of inhabited localities in Russia says aul (does not have to be abandoned).--Ymblanter (talk) 05:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you! - Sail 95 (talk)

Population

@Ymblanter: About the population number in the article. There is probably a guideline that I did not know about on Wikipedia about population data for places. I do not want to create an edit war over the population, but the question rises - why is it so important to have the population number in the opening of the article even when there is a population section with the same data on the article ? Let me know what I missed about adding population or anything else in articles so that mistakes do not keep going. - Sail 95 (talk) 22:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

This is what we have in all articles on Russian localities. Population is an important piece of information and as such must be in the lede (it should eventually be rewritten in readable prose, but this is not my first priority at the moment). Since the most reliable info on the population is coming from the census, we have made a template incorporating the information from the last three censusses. On the other hand, the population section can contain way more information - not only the censusses, but also published estimates, dynamics, ethnic and religious composition (I can imagine in some cases this also has to be mentioned in the lede as a defining property, but I do not see a need in this article) and other stuff.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:51, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Right, thank you. However - this makes another question rise for me on why the population number is so important compared to other things in the article. This question probably is ridiculous but, I cannot see yet why, the population number is so much more important than other info in the article, for example - the distance from the nearest large city, past events in the place, or anything else in it. - Sail 95 (talk) 15:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

I guess it is more important generally because it gives an important impression what this city is. Past events are generally important as well - for example, if we ever have a fully developed article about Kurchaloy, it should mention its role in the 1994 war, and may be some other things. For the distance to the nearest large city - I can imagine the situations when this information is sufficiently important for the lede, for example, if this distance is so large that communication is complicated, or if it is so small that people commute every day (like Lyubertsy and Moscow). If this is the case with Kurchaloy, feel free to add it (ideally in readable prose).--Ymblanter (talk) 15:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)