Talk:Kissing the shuttle

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Did you know... that shuttle kissing continued in Lancashire, England, long after it was outlawed in several U.S. states?

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Arrangement of sections[edit]

Might I suggest changing the section order to:

Traditional weaving
- Types of Shuttle
  - Suction shuttle
  - Hand-threaded shuttle
Shuttle kissing
Health
- Tuberculosis
- Other occupational health issues

I think it would help the general reader to establish (in order): what we are talking about, what shuttle kissing is, the consequences thereof. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:07, 17 May 2013 (UTC) Done[reply]

If it reads better I am perfectly happy to see it done.

I am still getting my head round what to call the shuttles- I can't find good references. there is a third type the self threading/ed shuttle as found in a Northrop. Here is a diagram- I need to clean up the svg, and get a definitive translation. I suspect that this section will be extended.

I can use this a template to draw the other two
Is the eye a tube? - I had problems with this so left it out. The eye on the shuttles I have seen are more like ceramic rings- they don't have the length to make them a tube. But some description is needed.

Yes - if anyone can provide a better description I'm happy, but as you say some description is needed. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is another section that needs to be added - Media. Kissing the Shuttle is the title of some folk music songs and I believe a group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 14:13, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Horrocks[edit]

Is there a definitive tie-up between Horrocks, Crewdson and Sons, Centenary Mill (aka Horrockses) and John Horrocks (politician)? I could not find anything on Crewdson in Wiki when I was doing a bit of tidying at lunch-time, but John was in the right place at the right time. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:09, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have a book- Dickinson 2002- There is a lot of material here- I will keep an eye open for the link. There needs to be a separate Horrock s article which is why I left the redlink in the first place.

Dickinson, T.C. (2002). Cotton Mills of Preston.The power behind the thread. ISBN 1859360963. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Now the distraction is over-- [1] I can start to harvest it. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 13:24, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Grace's Guides: http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Horrockses,_Crewdson_and_Co - will this do?-- Clem Rutter (talk) 16:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That ties it up nicely - I think I can feel a stub or a few edits coming on! Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:55, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed line from Tuberculous section[edit]

“

The illustrations on this page shows that Jowetts were manufacturing the suction shuttle in 1973.

”

I removed this line from the Tuberculous section because it is self-referential which is best avoided. I also removed it because I don't think the photos actually make that very clear because nowhere in the article or in the photo captions does it mention any years or even Jowetts (which I assume is a shuttle manufacture ring company?) Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 01:33, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think that "Jowett, England" stamped on the lower illustration is a good clue to the maker. Likewise 10/73 does tend to imply they were manufacturing them in October 1973. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Also, describing the contents of our images is not self referential in the context of the guidelines cited. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:40, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the caption to reflect maker and date and rm'd the self reference. Not a big issue. I have zapped the {{cn}}s. Just got to write the final stub. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 17:51, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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