Talk:Ken Onion/Archive 1

SpeedSafe mechanism

FYI: I think Blackie Collins might have something to say about whether or not Ken Onion invented the SpeedSafe mechanism. Sam 11:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Sam, why not contribute to this article rather than hack it to pieces, you seem to have some knowledge in this area? The object is to grow and enrich Wikipedia, not destroy it or reduce it to stubs. --Mike Searson 14:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Mr Onion has won awards as recently as this past year: at the Blade Show in Atlanta, GA. --Mike Searson 19:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Please stop vandalizing pages. If you want to be a positive contributor, by all means do so. Stop undermining WP:Cite. Periodicals are perfectly acceptable sources.--Mike Searson 19:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Stop using Wikipedia to shill for your friends. Sam 06:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Please provide a source for what you wrote on this page. Those print sources state otherwise. --Mike Searson 07:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

How about this one, to start? http://www.kershawknives.com/products.php?search_by=designer Be judicious about which magazine writers' works you cite. I predict a lot of it will come back to haunt you. But hey, what do I know? Right? Sam 07:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, I think it is a very bad idea to use this encyclopedia to promulgate Ken Onion as the true inventor of what is now called the SpeedSafe mechanism. Wiser to remember the old saw about letting sleeping dogs lie. Sam 07:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

That's a splash page for the Kershaw Knives site, I see nothing about Mr Collins and the speedsafe there. Provide a source that Mr Collins invented the Speedsafe. According to those print articles, Ken invented the Speedsafe. Are you threataning me with the sleeping dogs lie comment? Again, I don't understand this hostility. This article started because of another article about assissted opening. From the information I have at my disposal, Mr Onion invented the speedsafe mechanism while fixing a part on a motorcycle. If there is more to it than that, enlighten me. --Mike Searson 07:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You are unaware of the differences between a registered trademark and a patented invention? You are so naive as to not understand agenda-driven editorial coverage and patently bad reporting? Perish the thoughts. Sam 07:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I know the difference, please show me something in writing. Something published, link to a patent, etc. This is what discussion is for.--Mike Searson 07:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

That's what this is for? I thought this was a good place for you to shill for your friends. Sam 08:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll tell you what it's not. It's not the place to slander people. I'm willing to call this whole stupid thing off if you are. Did I inadvertantly offend you somehow? I don't get the vitriol you have, the venom. Have you confused me with someone else? Don't you think this whole thing is getting rather ridiculous...throwing insults and berating people because you don't like the knives they collect? --Mike Searson 08:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I haven't thrown an insult at, or slandered or berated anyone yet. (I know because I had to go verify the definition of "berate.") What exactly are willing to call off? I hope you mean that you'll stop using this place to shill for your friends. That would be too much to ask, though. Wouldn't it? Use my talk page to talk to me.Sam 08:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You haven't been insulting me with your comments? "Mikey Boy", "Mikey's Little article" etc, calling Dex Ewing a "machanicion", not to mention referring to a list of celebrities as drug addicts.--Mike Searson 08:37, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Now you are commenting on the source, itself. Is there something else the matter? Are you lashing out for another reason? We can bump heads all night or we can talk rationally to each other. --Mike Searson 08:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I am commenting on the source because the source is manifestly unreliable. You do see the absurdity in putting weapons in the hands of the likes of Kid Rock, Pamela Anderson and Ziggy Marley and expecting them to be good ambassadors for anything, don't you? Sam 08:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree with it personally, but think about it...is Ziggy, Pam or Nick Cage going to use a $2500 knife to rob a liqor store? What happened to NPOV? If you're trying to make a point about the article, then say that. Do you think defacing a biographical article with what you said about the magazine writeup is prudent? --Mike Searson 08:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I never called Dexter Ewing a "machination." I never called him anything. I was going to call him a shill but I didn't want to stay up all night parsing words for repyou. It is comical that you think my contributions deface these articles. Communicating with you is going to be harder than I thought. Use my talk page or don't address me again. Sam 09:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Sam, the appropriate place for working out disputes about article content is the article talk page: please do engage in good faith attempts to resolve content differences. I've just removed some of your unsourced editorializing from the article: please make sure that your additions to Wiki articles are based on reliable sources, and avoid including personal opinions in articles. Also, you should be aware the WP:BLP applies to comments you make on talk pages about living people as well as the article mainspace. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I found some patents, Ken Onion is listed as the inventor. Patent1, Patent2, Patent3, Patent4, Patent5, Patent6, Patent7, Patent8, Patent9, Patent10, Patent11, Patent12, Patent13, Patent14, Patent15

Mike Searson 03:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)