Talk:Kate & Leopold

Film music

Please note that I have listed the film music (and songs) in exactly the same order as the Australian CD of the film soundtrack, where Sting's song "Until..." is the final track on the CD.

I am aware that the American CD of the film soundtrack has Sting's song "Until..." as the first track on the CD. Figaro 17:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Needs a reception section

Needs some detail about reception, and critical response.24.190.34.219 (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Took a while but I've added some actually critical response, three reviews from real film critics (until now the section contained only Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic). The review from Roger Ebert includes some notes about the historical background about the Duke of Albany which might be worth including if anyone ever starts a Production section. -- 109.79.69.228 (talk) 17:06, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Stuart's family ties to Leopold and the significance of the elevator mishaps

Folks, Stuart's minor mentions about Leopold being his great-great-grandfather are not crucial to the story. The film isn't "Stuart and Leopold". The connection is basically a tease to put additional emphasis on the need for Leopold to get back to his time, lest it mess up Stuart's future.

And Leopold's brief removal from the original timeline has ripples on the reliability of elevators? That's fine. That's cute. But the film isn't "Kate & Leopold: The Elevator Enigma". It's just another cute connection to the whole butterfly effect concept in time travel movies. A brief mention about the elevators not working leading to Stuart's fall is fine. But we don't need long explanations about how important it is for society for Leopold to return to his time, because the movie doesn't focus on the elevators messing up the world. It focuses on, you know, Kate and Leopold!!! The two of them never even ride in an elevator! Xanderox (talk) 07:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Despite the film's title, both Leopold and Kate are passive characters whose main actions (Leopold's travel to the 21st century and Kate's travel to the 19th century) are driven by Stuart. Essentially, the film is about Stuart. —92.100.55.199 (talk) 08:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

What? The film is not about Stuart. The story is merely precipitated by his actions. You even note that Kate and Leopold have the main actions. How are they "passive characters"? What does that even mean? They are the main characters. Again, the stuff about Stuart and Leopold's connection is not so important to the plot to get into the weeds in the summary here. Xanderox (talk) 20:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

If a person's actions are not directed by their own will, then the person is formally active but essentially passive. For example, a film director is active, whereas a film actor is passive, despite the fact that "actor" and "active" are cognate words. Having noticed Kate in a ballroom photo taken on 28 April 1876, Stuart realizes that she is his great-great-grandmother and persuades her to jump to 28 April 1876 in order to ensure his own birth, similarly to Marty McFly arranging for his parents to marry and give birth to himself in Back to the Future. —95.55.22.173 (talk) 06:04, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

At what point in the film does Stuart mention that Leopold is his great-great-grandfather, or is it only in the director's cut as mentioned on the page? The connection resides in the article lead and twice more in the text, so Wikipedia defines it as one of the main points of the film. Is that why Stuart shows up at Leopold's home before the party, for family research? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:09, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Sandra Bullock

Apparently Sandar Bullock was attached to the film before Meg Ryan.[1] -- 109.79.69.228 (talk) 14:33, 9 August 2020 (UTC)