Talk:Kat & Alfie: Redwater

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Sources[edit]

Full quote from Chris Mann's Drivetime (22 March 2016)[edit]

As this expires on iPlayer today, I thought I'd note down the full quote:

  • Chris Mann: "So, you're doing a series now, is that right? Do I understand you're going to do a spin-off?"
  • Wallace: "We start filming in the middle of April, we go out to Dublin to film a six-part Drama for the BBC."
  • Richie: "And the working title is Redwater but that may change."
  • Mann: "As?"
  • Richie: "As Kat and Alfie. Yeah, it's... we call it a spin-off, and I don't know why we keep being told we can't, but it's not a spin-off, but it's about this community in Ireland that have this dark secret and have kept this secret for 30 years. I've compared it to The Wicker Man meets Broadchurch. And it's quite religeous, quite dark and it's good, there's a charm about it, as well. And Kat and Alfie turn up half way, 10 minutes into the first episode and you're watching going 'no, turn back, do not go into this village, Kat and Alfie.' But they have to because obviously Kat's looking for her adopted son and Alfie's got a brain tumour. And all these things happen over these six one-hours. It's great, yeah. Without giving too much away."

anemoneprojectors 11:05, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb[edit]

@AnemoneProjectors: Hi just noticed on Julie Dixon's IMDB page http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0228888/ it says she is writing episode 2+3 of Redwater (TV series). But I cannot seem to find another source. Strangely as well IMDB have airdates for the first three episodes. 1 January 2017, 8 January 2017, 15 January 2017 even though I am sure the BBC won't have made their schedule arrangements for next year yet. Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 20:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Kelvin 101: Anyone can edit IMDb, I'm already aware of the IMDb page - whoever added it has made up the dates and assumed Shay Crotty will be in it as Tommy. As the information is currently unconfirmed, I'm not adding it as an external link. anemoneprojectors 21:34, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb seems to have been updated with official information now, so although some likely wrong info is still there, I added it as an external link already. anemoneprojectors 10:27, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified information[edit]

I'm trying to find reliable sources for the following:

  • Filming in Dalkey's Coliemore Harbour finished on 11 May 2016
  • The Strand Inn in Dunmore East was used for exterior shots of the pub in the series
    • is being renovated for filming
    • filming will start on 25 May 2016 and last 6 weeks.
      • More spefically (from 10 June - I think this was after a break in filming there) until 1 July.
  • The Spinnaker Bar in Dunmore East will be used for interior shots of the pub
    • filming there lasted 3 days - 31 June, 1 and 2 May.
    • Further filming in Spinnaker Bar 21 and 22 June.
  • A clifftop house in Dunmore East called Laweesh (this one) was renovated for use as Kat and Alfie's new home
    • Some filming took place there week of 13 June
  • Filming at The Haven Hotel, Dunmore East, on 27 May
  • Filming in Passage East for one day
    • on 30 May
      • Filming in Passage East apparently lasted for more than a single day.
  • St Andrew's Church, Dunmore East, was a filming location on 7, 10, 11 June
  • Dunmore East beach filming 8, 11 June, week of 13 June. Etc
  • Azzurro restaurant filming 17 June
  • Dunmore East filming ended 30 June
  • Filming at Woodstown on 1 July (car scenes)
  • Filming in Newtownmountkennedy and Roundwood started 4 July for 3 weeks, and filming took place here in April
    • This source mentions the farmhouse in Redwater being somewhere near Roundwood.
  • Tweet from Shane Richie may imply that filming returned to the Dublin area on 14 July
  • An actress (not one of the main ones) tweeted that it was the last day of shooting on 15 July
    • Same day, Shane Richie tweeted it was "almost time to say goodbye" - this contradicts 3 weeks of filming from 4 July Struck out as several cast members since tweeted that it finished on 25 July.
  • Studio filming as well as on location
  • Tommy Moon played by Henry Proctor, English child actor living in Ireland
  • The series will include flashbacks
  • Musical score recorded by the London Metropolitan Orchestra
    • Natalie Holt scored for synths, guitar and a 12-piece string section
    • Strings led by Thom Gould
    • Conducted by Andy Brown
    • Holt assisted by Jessica Danheisser
    • Engineered by Toby Hulbert at Air-edel studios

anemoneprojectors 08:48, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Continuity errors[edit]

As well as the continuity errors already mentioned in the article, I noticed the following:

  • Redwater's first episode is set around the spring equinox, which does not happen in May when Stacey receives the postcard in EastEnders. It was on 20 March in 2015, 2016 and 2017.
  • Posters around the village show the festival is taking place in 2016 (seen during filming). I think this is when it is meant to be set, and the 21 years could be explained by summer 1994 to spring 2016 being less than 22 years.
  • Kat had the postcard saying that her son is safe, which she says is how she knows he is in Redwater, but in EastEnders, she finds out that he is in Redwater because Belinda remembers the name of the village
  • Kat says she has waited "all her life" and it is sort of implied that she has had the postcard for a long time, but she did not know about her son until the nun in EastEnders told her in 2016. Though it is possible that a family member had the postcard and gave it to Kat when she talked about going to Ireland. But I think only Big Mo knew about the son and Kat hates her for her part in it.

If anyone has any reliable sources pointing out these, and any other, continuity errors, I'd love to see them added to the article. —anemoneprojectors— 11:42, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This might do for some of them
Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 13:36, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Those are the ones already mentioned in the article. I added them from that source, then came here because I need sources for the rest. Thanks anyway :-) —anemoneprojectors— 14:30, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This source mentions a continuity error in the episode but as it's nothing to do with the continuity between RW and EE, I don't think it should be included. —anemoneprojectors— 17:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This source addresses the Belinda/postcard continuity error. The "my whole life" thing could be a metaphor for how she feels, though, and not a continuity error, and there are possible explanations as to how Kat got the postcard, which could only be addressed by Dominic Treadwell-Collins, really. —anemoneprojectors— 09:41, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, not an error but related to continuity, Richie said there was only one minor reference to EastEnders but in episode 1, Kat says "I'm an East Ender", which is a possible reference (though I did see this mentioned in an interview, I can't remember where I saw it!) and also Kat talked about how back home, everyone's in each other's houses and in each other's knickers - a source for that would be good, if there is one. —anemoneprojectors— 07:14, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Episode 2's continuity errors:

  • Kat said her father died "a couple of years ago", but Charlie died in January 2016. But people tend to be quite vague about those kinds of things anyway.
  • Kat confirmed Tommy's age as 7 years, but he was born on 31 December 2010, making him 6 years old if Redwater is set in 2017. However, it could just be that Kat thought 7 was close enough to 6 to not need to correct it. Or he's been SORASed. —anemoneprojectors— 11:15, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TV Choice Awards 2017[edit]

The series has been longlisted for Best New Drama in the 2017 TV Choice Awards, but I can't find a source for this - just the voting page. Any ideas? —anemoneprojectors— 09:52, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

When I wanted to reference Holby City being nominated, I sourced the archived page (which actually has all the long list nominees on it) so feel free to use that. It is located at List of awards and nominations received by Holby City#TV Choice Awards. I would paste the link but I'm just on my mobile at the moment. Soaper1234 - talk 10:34, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Soaper :-) —anemoneprojectors— 14:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

General content[edit]

This article is loaded with fluff in the guise of direct quotes from people involved in the project. Needs serious revision and trimming. Just because it's all sourced, it doesn't make it relevant. This article contains 470 quotation marks. The article for Coronation Street has 270 odd. Eastenders has about 700, but considering the relative low profile of this show, someone needs to do a big trim.

Take these sentences for example:

Kathleen is described as "a very colourful person" with "a lot of layers to her".[21] Alfie is "a charmer" with "a big heart" who cares about his family.[11] Roisín is described as "quite complicated", different on the outside to how she is inside, "very practical, very stoic" and "quite dutiful".[78] Eileen, Roisín's sister, is described as having a "dual personality", "a fighter and a survivor", yet "quite fragile" with an "underlying sadness".[79]

Someone's about to get a lot of notifications.

212.159.157.200 (talk) 17:21, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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