Talk:Jake Arrieta

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One link was dead, the other unnecessary so both were removed. Cubbie15fan (talk) 14:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Muboshgu (talk · contribs) 23:59, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I can review this. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:59, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, section by section...

Lead
  • Too short. A lead should be a comprehensive summary of the article's contents. Outside of the first sentence, this one only focuses on 2015.
  • There are six citations backing up the last fact in the lead. That is citation overkill. Per WP:LEADCITE, there shouldn't be citations in the lead, since all facts mentioned in the lead should be mentioned and cited in the article body. Bob Gibson is currently mentioned in the lead, but not the body.
Amateur career
  • He was born in MO, but went to school in TX. Can we add why? An "early life" section can detail his parents, siblings, etc., and the reason they moved.
  • TCU abbreviation needs to be introduced after the first usage of Texas Christian University, like this "Texas Christian University (TCU)", before it can be used.
  • The college stats end after his sophomore year. What happened in his junior year?
Professional career
  • It's not particularly clear that his season in Frederick was the 2008 season, until getting to the end of the sentence. Also, the 2008 Summer Olympics are linked for the second time here, when it only needs to be linked once.
  • Nothing is mentioned about 2009, or the beginning of his 2010 season. 2011 is barely mentioned, just that he started the Orioles' home opener, and the sentence then continues into 2012. Each season needs at least one sentence to describe what happened.
  • The Orioles paragraph is not enough to cover 2010 through 2013. It needs expansion.
  • "As of September 24, 2014, ..." We should have a full season update.
  • Obviously his 2015 season was yuuuge. It should be commented on more than the others. But, this seems a bit excessive. Now that 2015 is over, it should be trimmed for anything seeming to be related to WP:RECENTISM.
  • His 2016 salary is mentioned as a record for second-time arbitration players. What did he earn in his first time in arbitration?
Personal life
  • Could also use some expansion. How did he and his wife meet, for example?

That's a start. If I see anything else I'll add it. I'll put the article on hold for now to allow for improvements. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:12, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No work done in over a week, I will now fail this article. Hopefully someone (possibly myself) improves the article based on the above. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:46, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Television acting appearances: Veep and Chicago Fire[edit]

Might be worthwhile adding his appearance on the series Veep's season-one episode Baseball (where he appeared alongside several of his Orioles teammates) and the season seven episode My Miracle of the series Chicago Fire.

SecretName101 (talk) 12:39, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Barkeep49 (talk · contribs) 00:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

  • LEAD is too short for an article of this length. It doesn't capture his amateur career at all, for instance. See MOS:INTRO
  • I removed his 2015 ERA "record" as being more a "fun fact" than true summary.
  • Fair enough, it is listed in the 2015 season section Cubbie15fan (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • The TCU page isn't the worst source for his HS stats but isn't necessarily the best either. Is there a better source available?
  • Is there a source that actually talks about his decision to play in college or are we just inferring it from the fact that he was drafted but then went to JC and then TCU?
  • [1] is a deadlink
  • Is his summer league play in college really notable?
  • I don't know that the writing is actually below GA standard but the Amateur section is basically all "here's a stat he did this year". The way it is phrased is varied but am just noting that reading it does get a bit repetitive especially because we're not a sports alamanac. I'm wondering if this whole section could be shortened to reflect his college career more as a whole rather than year by year.
  • I don't know that all 3 cites in the first sentence of draft/minor leagues are necessary to establish the information
  • It looks like his 2009 minor league year is not covered?
  • His career in Baltimore was turbulent and there has been reporting about it at the time and since. I don't think this is adequately captured in that section.
  • His 2013 season needs a citation at the end of the paragraph to support the information there.
  • Feels trivial to mention how his no hitters were broken up in 2014 - agree that the 7th or 8th inning fact should stay. My guess without looking at the history is that these were included at the time they happened and show the long term dangers of NOTNEWS.
  • While 2015 & 2016 were his best seasons their coverage (as pointed out in GA1) does feel overly long and detailed in comparison to other years. I'm holdoff looking at them in detail until they're condensed.
  • Similarly I think the 2017 postseason could be 1 sentence (maybe 2).
  • Is there anything notable about his defense outside of the 2018 season? I see no coverage of it anywhere else in the article
  • The third sentence of pitching style is out of date and should be updated or otherwise reformulated. Same is true for the next sentence.
  • There are definitely sources available for Arrieta noticeably pitches across his body.
  • I don't know that his Puerto Rican ancestry is necessary
  • The pictures are all CC compliant but would suggest that they spread more evenly throughout - they're clustered more to the top right now. Even if there's another picture of him on the Phillies that could be used that would be great.
  • No issues with other GA criteria such as copyright.
  • In general as I noted for the amateur section I worry about this being more stats based rather than narrative based. In looking at several GAs of current players, I have issues with many of the modern players in this regard as opposed to the prose found in those of an older player like Cy Young or even Kenny_Lofton whose career was largely outside the Wikipedia era.

Discussion[edit]

I've had my eye on this for a bit. I will begin a detailed read through in the next couple of days and it'll likely take me a couple of days to conduct the review.Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cubbie15fan: review complete. In particular please see the last bullet point under review. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Barkeep49: thanks, I'll through each point you've made above as time permits. Cubbie15fan (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cubbie15fan Any update? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:14, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am going ahead and closing this review given the lack of response. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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