Talk:J. R. Ewing

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Trivia[edit]

In Italy, the character of J.R. Ewing became over the years the archetype of the wealthy and ruthless American, untrustworthy and alcoholic. Although the show's popularity ended nearly twenty years ago, it is still common to hear Italians refer to Americans as "the J.R.'s". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.92.4 (talk) 04:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expand article[edit]

I'm going to work on adding to this article. Knittatron 21:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can not understand why someone would spend all the time to enter plot summaries under J.R. Ewing??!! Should one feel compelled, plot data should go under "Dallas" and not placed here. After awhile, it becomes tedious menucia. THIS NEEDS TO BE DELETED, as it has nothing to do with defining the person of J.R. Ewing. _SL

I am only reading the article on J. R. Ewing due to it's reference in an article from the Huffington Post. The name is used by Johann Hari to describe Jake Hamon as "a J.R. Ewing for the Jazz Age." After reading J. R. Ewing's (and not finding Jake Hamon's) wiki, I still don't understand the reference! What am I missing? Could this be a new pop culture reference on Ewing's page? jniedecker (talk) 01:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lost material restored[edit]

The material lost with this edit has been restored. In general, please watch out for this type of thing. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 23:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


JR Shot The Mirror[edit]

The reunion film that I saw and recorded, revealed that when Bobby walked in the room he saw that J.R. was still holding the smoking gun after having shot the mirror. He left without a word and moved to Europe to "get the devil out of him". The film was called RETURN TO DALLAS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernard ferrell (talk • contribs) 16:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


JR is a symbol of the 80s[edit]

While I do admit the page could use a little editing, the page should remain simply because JR EWING was the main character who symbolized the greed and excess of the 1980s right alongside GORDON GECKO. JR is just as important as the John Travolta character (Tony Manero) from SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER who represented the 70s or MRS. CLEAVER and LUCY RICARDO who represented the 50s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernard ferrell (talk • contribs) 18:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of J. R. (John Ross) name[edit]

I have read that the initials J.R. were chosen to honor the character Jett Rink from Giant and that "John Ross" is a variation of H. Ross Perot, the Dallas billionaire. But I think J.R. honors the actor John Russell who played a J.R.-like character who wore a suit with a cowboy hat in the movie Rio Bravo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.129.171 (talk) 20:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And if anyone is ideally suited for a re-make of James Dean's character in 'Giant' it's Josh Henderson. Quick, before he grows too old!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.165.48 (talk) 05:15, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Home from Vietnam... In 1962?[edit]

I never watched the show, and if this information is correct for its in-universe timeline then so be it, but: American involvement in the Vietnam War hadn't even started in 1962. Should this be 1972? TJSwoboda (talk) 22:05, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

After watching JR's funeral last night (11 March 2013), both my wife and I noted that problem- we were disappointed that the military salute/3 volleys were not shown, although the Army Honor Guard was in the background. I also noted that the Honor Guard was lacking in Green Berets...

To start with, 1972 would have been *far* too late for someone born in 1935 to have been drafted-they would have been a career soldier by that time, and it would have been a major plot point somewhere along the line.

US involvement in Vietnam started during WWII, with the OSS supporting Ho Chi Minh against the Japanese. President Truman initiated the Military Assistance Advisory Groups in 1950, which President Eisenhower continued at a low level during the rest of the 1950s. President Kennedy rapidly expanded the MAAG with increased support by the Central Intelligence Agency and the then still small US Army Special Forces. Here's the trick: JRE was reportedly born in 1935, which means he would have been draftable roughly between 1954 and 1960 (as was Elvis Presley, who was also born in 1935), but the only US troops assigned to Indochina at the time should have been career soldiers with some experience...not draftees who only served two years of active duty. It is possible that a draftee would have been assigned as a part of the military support staff for the Embassy there, but I doubt it...even after the introduction of the All Volunteer Army in the 1970s, embassy support staff were generally not folks on their first assignment.

IIRC, the SF at the time required prospective candidates to be career (minimum 4 years active service and on a second enlistment), E-5/SGT (promotable to E-6/SSG), and Airborne qualified before acceptance. Their training took at least a full year after acceptance (including language school, it might approach two years before the new Green Beret was deployable).

SF sergeants were expected to master *at least* two areas of combat specialty (light weapons, heavy weapons, demolitions/engineering, communications, medical, or intelligence) AND have significant language skills (for Indochina, it would have been French and one of the indigenous (Vietnamese, Lao, Hmong, Bru, etc) languages, not Spanish, which JR was fluent in)- they were considered teachers first, leaders second, and highly trained combatants third- a 12 man Special Forces A detachment was expected to be able to train and lead between 50 and 500 native troops into combat successfully. Special Forces Officers were generally Infantry Officers who were expected to have a working knowledge in *all* of the fields listed above, as well as the language skills.

During my time in the Army (1979-1991), I met a few SF veterans from that era...none of them struck me as the JR type. Robin Moore's book The Green Berets was written with the cooperation of the US Army Special Forces, and, as far as I know, never been repudiated as a reasonably accurate description of the 1960-1964 era operations of that unit.

See also Operation White Star and MACV SOG for more information on operations in Indochina in the 1960-1964 and post 1964 time frames.

I also found it interesting that JR apparently never went to college...

All in all, I suspect it was an addition to JRE's bio by someone who didn't do their research properly...

DocKrin (talk) 12:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

J.R. was in Korea, not Vietnam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.189.128.13 (talk) 17:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

JR's Masterpiece[edit]

What is the 'quail hunt' referred to in this section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.165.48 (talk) 05:11, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Date of marriage (Sue Ellen & J.R.)[edit]

I still think, that they married in 1970. I remember this one episode "Anniversary" (season 5 episode 18): J.R. and Sue Ellen celebrate the anniversary of their meeting at the Miss Texas beauty pageant. It's 1967 (and here is another mistake by the way the episode aired in February 1982 but J.R. says its her 14th anniversary) and I'm sure they said that they married three years later several times. (Unfortunately I can't come up with episodes for this, because I would have to watch every single episode...) And the marriage was in December 1982, not December 1981 (season 6 episode 10/11). --Jany90 (talk) 20:24, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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