Talk:It Ain't Me

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Writing credits[edit]

In affiliation to the single release, Kygo wrote in an e-mail to the newspaper Bergen Tidende, the following statement;

  • "Jeg skrev «It Ain’t Me» sammen med andre låtskrivere. En av dem kjente Selena. Han sendte låten over til henne. Hun elsket den åpenbart. Et par dager etterpå dro hun i studio for å spille inn", skriver Kyrre Gørwell-Dahll, alias Kygo, på en e-post til BT.

Same quote from Norwegian article, translated into English:

  • "I wrote «It Ain’t Me» together with other songwriters. One of them knew Selena. He [probably one of the songwriters] sent the song over to her. She obviously loved it. A couple of days afterwards she went to studio to record", writes Kyrre Gørwell-Dahll, alias Kygo, in an e-mail to BT.

Source: Selena Gomez elsket låten | OnWikiNo (talk) 17:17, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Genre[edit]

According to The Post source the song "exactly the calm tone most tropical house songs carry", "The drop sounds exactly the way a tropical house drop should." This is not rocket science, the source is clearly referring to the song being a tropical house song, the genre is mentioned 3 times in the article alone. Your sources for electropop and EDM are unreliable. Please read WP:RS and WP:BRD. You are blatantly genre and edit warring just for the sake of it Anonpediann. Abi-Maria (talk) 19:18, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the article is mentioning the genre several times means nothing. The sources NEVER called the song explicity tropical house, so i'm not entering in a edit war without a reason. Anyway don't act like you are not the one reverting my edits. What is your point in calling Your EDM unreliable? I used Groove because i saw it in an old revision of the article, but i guess you are right in that. Sources being unreliable don't mean you can put tropical house to fill the genre gap. I guess your latest source is valid. Anonpediann (talk)
We are here to edit Wikipedia constructively, please drop the batttleground mentality. I see you have a history with edit warring, genre tampering and blocks so if anything please get consensus on the talk page first per WP:BRD. Your latest edit falsely piped "Dance" which is not a genre to EDM which is not even mentioned in the source you provided. Abi-Maria (talk) 17:22, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Who do you think you are to judge me for things that happened when i was learning to use the webpage? Can you give me any reasonable answer? I asked you why you consider Your EDM a unreliable source? And why you say dance is not a genre? First time hearing that. We are here to talk the article constructively. Plus you still have any argument for the bad sources you used for tropical house in the begining, any article that used trpical house was used by you as a reliable source. You just keep taking down genres because you like the way the article looks with just tropical house in the genre section. If you never had found that Australian Charts Report source i bet you would continue arguing. You are not the owner of the article, i appreciate the improvements you made on it anyway. Anonpediann (talk) 17:36, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Your EDM is not a notable news source first of all, there is nothing on the website that shows its credibility as per WP:RS, the author Matthew Meadow's profile on the website says "Lover of all bass music. I'm not afraid to speak my mind and put it to paper, and I do it often. I call Los Angeles my home, there's no better place for emerging EDM. Get in touch with me more via email or Twitter." 'He is not a professional music journalist, there is no history of a degree or him working for reputable source in the past. The Post is not a bad source as you claim, but I am done arguing with you regarding that because you are clearly clinging onto straws. If you try actually clicking on the dance music article you linked originally and read it, you will see that it is not a genre but a broad term for music used to dance to whether it is samba, hip hop dancing, fox trot etc. Also, kindly read WP:OR before adding original research like this, "(probably Lee, who wrote the track "Lover In Me" with Gomez for the Target and international deluxe edition of her debut solo record "Stars Dance")". Abi-Maria (talk) 18:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for answering. I already know the Brian Lee clarification is WP:OR but is the interview Kygo says that one of the songwriters knew Selena and is a fact that he and Selena worked together. How could they write a song together without knowing each other? Just a conclusion i came to. I think i'll ask an admin for a clarification in The Post article. I think the sources are using the dance term as a genre description but everything is too relative that i'm not really sure. Anonpediann (talk) 18:31, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus[edit]

  • EDM is sourced by New York magazine: "it's yet another EDM detour".
  • Pop-house is sourced by Billboard magazine: "another pop-house anthem", what concerns me is that "pop-house" is not a genre and I can't find any other songs on Wikipedia called "pop-house", it seems to be a term made up by the journalist to describe it being a pop song and a house song.
  • Tropical house sourced by The Music Network "a tropical house treat" and The Post "exactly the calm tone most tropical house songs carry" and its drop "sounds exactly the way a tropical house drop should."

So at the moment, we have 3 genres, I thought we should get consensus and maybe trim it to 2 since tropical house is a subgenre of house and "pop-house" is a bit obscure. I'll put a notice on related WikiProject talk pages so hopefully we can get more third opinions. Abi-Maria (talk) 16:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • (invited at the genre page) IMHO When the genre isn't 100% sure of being a single genre or is contested, then genre is a subjective term in the eye of the beholder. In that case it isn't a matter of sources reporting on some fundamental reality, it's just in the eye of the beholder. On suggestion: just take genres which RS's have directly stated and put them both in. Maybe avoid any that are so specialized that they are not widely known. And elsewhere avoid wording which essentially says that it is any single genre. Finally, this isn't worth pain and suffering over, nor worth getting smacked over for violating Wikipedia conduct rules. IMHO Shake hands and have some fun working with each other on this. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 18:01, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunate Son (It Ain't Me)[edit]

Considering that the line "It Ain't Me" is must commonly used to refer to the song Fortunate Son by Creedence Clearwater Revival, there really ought to be a link to it at the top of this article. Nearly any Youtube video related to Vietnam is going to include part of the song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.47.134 (talk) 07:48, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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