Talk:Isaac Bissell
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See relevant discussions re: Isaac Bissell[edit]
See Talk:Israel Bissell#Israel vs. Isaac Bissell - Phil. or not regarding whether or not the article should be based upon Isaac vs. Israel - and whether it's about the route to New York / Philadelphia or not. The decision was to move the article to Isaac Bissell, because there was clearly a post rider who traveled through Massachusetts and to Hartford, Connecticut.
See Talk:Israel Bissell#Two post riders named Bissell? about whether there were two riders or not. This came up in a letter to an editor by a historian. After research, researched in a very detailed manner, it became clear that there were two routes from Waterton/Worcester:
- One was a westerly route across the state to Springfield, and then down to Hartford, Connecticut by Isaac Bissell.
- Another route went south of Worcester into Connecticut and then along the coast to New York by Israel Bissell.
So two articles are needed. I brought back the Israel Bissell article. The only question now is - did Israel ride all the way to Philadelphia. In New York, there was an order for another rider to go west as far as Philadelphia.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- The talk page discussions have been moved back to Talk:Israel Bissell. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 15:57, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Updated the link after talk history was moved to Israel's article.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Research items left over after working on Israel's article[edit]
From Talk:Israel Bissell#Israel vs. Isaac Bissell - Phil. or not
- Isaac Bissell lived in Sheffield, Connecticut iBerkshires
- So far, born in Windsor where the Bissell's settled in 1640. (in the article now).–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- He died in Suffield. (see below)
- An Isaac Bissell (and a Samuel Bissell) from Sheffield served during the Revolutionary War, printed page 80 [1], Library of Congress
- His father was Samuel, but he died in 1759. There is no indication of a brother named Samuel. From Burke's.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Done. I am not finding that he served with a Samuel. I am also trying to sort out if he ever really lived in Sheffield.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- His father was Samuel, but he died in 1759. There is no indication of a brother named Samuel. From Burke's.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- An Isaac Bissell was a blacksmith and owned the Timothy Swan House in Suffield, until he sold it in April 1788, printed page 172 of the previous source
- This source] says that he was a blacksmith in Suffield after the war. Done
- One source I may come back to here.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- He died in Suffield p. 285–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done, unless I come across more while researching.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- This source] says that he was a blacksmith in Suffield after the war.
- An Isaac Bissell was born January 25, 1749, the son of Samuel and Mary Bissell, of Windsor, Connecticut, U.S., Town Birth Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection) via ancestry.com. See if the mother was Mary Kibbe done, except Mary Kibbe
- Found Burke's Peerage info for the Bissells. Yes, the mother was Mary Kibbe. Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Found Burke's Peerage info for the Bissells. Yes, the mother was Mary Kibbe.
- Isaac Bissell lived in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut with a household of eight in 1790 - per census, via ancestry.com–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- He died in Suffield. (See above)
- This is likely our Isaac, but since there weren't names on the census records yet, there's no way of knowing. Besides, there are other sources now that put him in Suffield before the war and then when he died. Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is likely our Isaac, but since there weren't names on the census records yet, there's no way of knowing. Besides, there are other sources now that put him in Suffield before the war and then when he died.
- He died in Suffield. (See above)
- See if there is more on Lexington Green - it is supposedly where Isaac Bissell's ride began (Watertown for Israel).–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have found two sources that state that he got the order from Palmer at the Lexington Green and at the "Lexington Fite".–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am closing this list now. If I have missed or misunderstood something, please let me know.–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)