Talk:International Free Press Society

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Query[edit]

the current (07 January) entry seems to be biased in both content and language and reads as though it were Danish Free Press Society propaganda. Nowhere is any mention made of the controversy that has erupted since the remarks Danish Free Press Society chairman Lars Hedegaard made in an interview on December 22nd 2009. If reports of these remarks are consistently deleted, then this entire entry is not objective, but merely a propaganda piece. Any deletions of coverage of the split within the Free Press Society over Hedegaard's remarks should be reported to wiki with the notification that the neutral point of view of this entry is entirely lacking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptomania (talk • contribs) 15:47, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is a good idea to mention the recent Danish media debates on this. The problem was that the IP-edits like these was editorializing and soapboxing. Your recent addition to the article seems more neutral. --Saddhiyama (talk) 16:27, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

libelous remarks[edit]

I remind all editors of WP policy regarding making potentially defamatory remarks against living persons. I have just removed remarks about an IFPS chairman which were supported by a non-existent source and further sources which actually threw doubt on the accusations made in the article. If such comments are restored the action will be reported to the appropriate administrators.μηδείς (talk) 04:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His remarks were real and caused quite a stir at the time. Several prominent members of the society chose to leave it following it. Also I can't see where "politiken.dk source says the left is spreading lies about what was said", you will have to elaborate what you meant by that. Because as far as I can see, all the links, which are all RS, quite accurately supports the claims in the article. --Saddhiyama (talk) 08:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly isn't libellous on our part as the material traces back to the Copenhagen Post. That said, we do need to be very careful that the quotes attributed to him are direct and accurate translations rather than somebody else's paraphrasing or characterisation of his comments. Apart from that, I can't see any serious problem with this coverage apart from the meaningless use of the word "categorically" which I have removed. --DanielRigal (talk) 10:15, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Lead[edit]

One of its board members wants to ban the Koran, and we call it a free speech organisation? We don't say anything about its politics? Take a look at this [1] - and this interesting quote: "absolute freedom can lead to absolutism. Hitler used freedom of speech and the democratic process to enddemocracy. The fascist parties of Europe today have thesame strategy.’ See this on Geerts [2]. No surprise that Lawrence Swain calls the group "authentically neo-Fascist."[3] Dougweller (talk) 09:53, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article has a proper overview section of the organisation telling about its politics. Not sure what the Nazi references have to do in regards to developing this article. Then again, the Danish Prime Minister affirmed support free speech after the gunman attack, but not sure if this article should focus on Hedegaard only (and I mean both: hate speech trial and gunman attack). --Pudeo ' 18:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The lead should be a summary of the article. It isn't. And why are we listing all those aims? We should be talking about what it does, not what it says it does, and how others describe it - if a reliable source calls it neo-Fascist, then that should probably be in the article. Don't try to use Godwin's law, that's just a way to stifle discussion in this context. Dougweller (talk) 22:00, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence Swain by no means is an authority on this in his book The Death of Judeo-Christianity. His think tank Interfaith Freedom Foundation seems to be even less notable than this "International Free Press Society". But correct me if I'm wrong, if it's notable certainly his opinion on this can be told, but I don't think his book was even really about this topic. Hedegaard was featured in many newspieces now: apparently most described him as an "critic of Islam". For example, the BBC tells that this organisation was founded for "supporting Geert Wilders' right to criticize Islam" but notes that Hedegaard has made "degrading comments about Muslims." --Pudeo ' 22:25, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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