Talk:Hypofluorous acid

Fluorine in +1 Oxidation State?[edit]

It is my understanding of oxidation states that when a covalent bond is form, a negative oxidation state is assigned to the more electronegative element and a positive oxidation state is assigned to the less electronegative element. Fluorine is the most electronegative element of all the compound-forming elements. Shouldn't it have a -1 oxidation state instead of a +1 oxidation state? Kyoobur9000 (talk) 22:05, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The oxidation state of "O"is 0. and the oxidation state of "F"is-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yi Ming Iridium (talk • contribs) 15:06, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fluorine is quite a bit more electronegative than oxygen so it is in the 1- state. F₂O has oxygen in the 2+ state correspondingly, and HOF has oxygen in the 0 state since the H-O bond is reducing. JGHFunRun (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Interatomic angles and lengths[edit]

The interatomic angles and lengths given in the text are different from those presented in the accompanying space-filling model graphic, with no explanation given in the text. Doonhamer 04:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I made the image. I obtained the bond lengths and angles from Greenwood, Norman N.; Earnshaw, Alan (1997). Chemistry of the Elements (2nd ed.). Butterworth-Heinemann. ISBN 978-0-08-037941-8.. Perhaps the text refers to HOF in the solid phase while the dimensions in my diagram refer to HOF in the gas phase. Bond lengths and angles are often different in different phases.

Ben 09:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ben. I'm not very knowledgeable in the area. Maybe this can be mentioned in the article? Doonhamer 13:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for raising awareness of this contradiction.

Cheers

Ben 15:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The angles still dont jive.--Smokefoot 15:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about removing the title of the reference - I'm not used to using <ref> tags. What do you mean by jive?

Ben 16:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The figure and the text dont agree on the H-O-F angle. I dont have the original paper anymore, so I dont which is correct.

--Smokefoot 16:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greenwood and Earnshaw gives the both angles, the one in the figure from spectroscopic data (gas phase) and the one in the text from x-ray diffraction (solid phase). They're both correct, aren't they?

Ben 16:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanks... I hadnt realized. --Smokefoot 17:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I rewrote the paragraph discussing the solid phase bond measurements to make clear the reason for the discrepancy with the illustration. Good work everyone. Doonhamer 06:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Element order in formulae[edit]

Excuse me - if I remember correctly, IUPAC rules recommend to place elements in order by their increasing electronegativity, in case of molecular formulae that would lead to HOF, OF₂ (I am quite sure about the least formula)? I am not certain about this but I would to set such a question. --159.148.226.100 (talk) 16:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion but Wikipedia Chem often does not follow IUPAC rules, we are a little more focused on the content and readability of the articles vs the rulebook.--Smokefoot (talk) 17:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lithium hypofluorite?[edit]

The article's table mentions lithium hypofluorite under "related cations". Does this salt really exist? I couldn't find any descriptions of it; only organic hypofluorites can be googled. Were any inorganic normal salts of hypofluorous acid isolated at all? 213.87.128.160 (talk) 09:05, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

this a Salt of HypoFluorid acide[edit]

and it's a volatile:: Sulfurylfluoride Wikistallion (talk) 08:46, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sulfuryl Hypo fluoride Wikistallion (talk) 08:47, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sulfurylfluoride would not be a salt, as it is not ionic in nature, instead being covalently bonded. Your second thing does not appear to exist, though there is Fluorine fluorosulfonate F(SO₂)OF. Perhaps, FO(SO₂)OF also exists, but they would all be covalent molecular compounds, and not salts. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]