Talk:Hot Cross Buns (song)

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Use as a child musician training song?[edit]

I know that this is one of a couple songs that music classes/schools teach young children trying to learn a new instrument... (example) ... maybe something could be referenced about this? ... I would do it myself, but I'm afraid I wouldn't do it correctly and a mod would delete it later. -- 71.141.121.26 (talk) 00:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The pastry[edit]

There should be some notes regarding the coloration between the pastry and the rhyme Δρ∈rs∈ghiη (talk) 20:48, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Tune[edit]

The section on the tune mentions a "3-note descending stepwise sequence", but this sequence is not in the audio clip. There appear to be two versions of the tune: the one in the audio clip (score here) and one with three descending notes (score here). Verbcatcher (talk) 12:03, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The audio clip is only for the first stanza. The well-known tune is different for the second stanza (starting "If you have no daughters"). Can someone generate a complete version? Verbcatcher (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have found three tunes. The first version is the one I am familiar with:

$\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \key c \major g4 d g2 g4 d g2 d'8 c b a g a b c d4 d, g2 b8 b b b b4 a4 g8 a b c a2 d8 c b a g a b c d4 d, g2 } \addlyrics { Hot cross buns! Hot cross buns! One a pen -- ny, two a pen -- ny, Hot cross buns! If you have no daugh -- ters, give them to your sons. One a pen -- ny, two a pen -- ny, Hot cross buns! }$

Other than the key, this is the same as that in the clip in the current article:

Hot Cross Buns

Tune for Hot Cross Buns

The second version is almost the same. This version is on this website.

$\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \key c \major d4 d, g2 d'4 d, g2 d'8 c b a g a b c d4 d, g2 } \addlyrics { Hot cross buns! Hot cross buns! One a pen -- ny, two a pen -- ny, Hot cross buns! }$

The third version may be a genuine alternative tune or the result of confusion with Three Blind Mice. This version is here.

$\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \key c \major \tempo 4 = 180 e,2 d c1 e2 d c1 c4 c c c d d d d e2 d c1 } \addlyrics { Hot cross buns! Hot cross buns! One a pen -- ny, two a pen -- ny, Hot cross buns! }$

(For details of the Score extension used for these examples see Help:Score.)

I propose to edit the article to give the first tune as the "usual version". Any comments? Do you have a citable source? Verbcatcher (talk) 17:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good Friday come this month[edit]

User:Chie one, On 15 June 2015 you changed "Good Friday come this month, the old woman runs" to "Good Friday comes this month, the old woman runs". What was your rationale? Did you check the referenced source (Poor Robin's Almanack for 1733)? Verbcatcher (talk) 17:57, 27 November 2015‎

I have accessed a page of the cited source, which has 'comes this month':

Hindley, Charles (10 November 2011). A History of the Cries of London: Ancient and Modern. Cambridge University Press. p. 218. ISBN 978-1-108-03638-2.

Unfortunately a scan the preceding page is not available on Google Books, and I can't see enough to cite this. Verbcatcher (talk) 00:27, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Opies (1997, p.124) also give the Poor Robin reading as "comes". Sweetpool50 (talk) 08:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Media doesn't work[edit]

When I try to play hot cross buns here on Wikipedia, the play button does not work and I can't control the volume. The URL that it goes to is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Undefined so there is a problem in the media. --Red-back spider (talk) 00:31, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How do you access this page? Which device, operating system, browser? For me, under Windows 7 the playback works for Firefox, Chrome, IE. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:15, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Windows 10, Firefox 80.0.1 (latest version). Can confirm that I'm seeing a similarly nonfunctional audio bar. But clicking on the score itself does show a little popup message that says "Download MIDI file". V2Blast (talk) 22:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do the examples in Help:Score work with your system? This should establish whether the problem specifically relates to the clip here. Verbcatcher (talk) 03:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clicking on the score itself and seeing "Download MIDI file" is expected behaviour. Here, with Windows 7 and FF 80.0.1, the play button works. FYI, the button will (currently) play this file: https://upload.wikimedia.org/score/4/z/4zuil1lriynmo1dpq864mkwwz7wr91f/4zuil1lr.ogg . Does that work for you?-- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]