Talk:Heroes' Square (Budapest)

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English form[edit]

It seems to me that the correct English form of Hősők Ter should be Heroes Square without the possessive apostrophe.To my (limited) Hungarian the name is plural but not possessive. Or is there some tradition that would make the current translation more correct? Woops - I wasn't paying attention to the little Hungarian I do know -- it is tere which is where the possessive comes from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.83.141 (talk) 13:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some of this article[edit]

appears to be a cut & paste from here [1]. Any ideas about how to proceed? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. Hmmm. Someone should rephrase it or we must delete that section. KœrteFa {ταλκ} 03:33, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think that the cut and paste went the other way. I remember writing some of the parts in question a number of years ago. Carl Drott

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Hősök tere
Hősök tere is a major square in Budapest, Hungary, known for its statue complex featuring the Seven Chieftains of the Magyars and other national leaders, as well as the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. The square lies at the outbound end of Andrássy Avenue next to City Park. It hosts the Museum of Fine Arts and the Hall of Art. The square has played an important part in modern Hungarian history and has been a host to many political events, such as the reburial of Imre Nagy in 1989.Photograph: Andrew Shiva
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When it smacks of propaganda, and it walks like propaganda, it probably...[edit]

"The monument was damaged in World War II and when it was rebuilt the Habsburgs were replaced by the current figures."

Really? Was ONLY the left side, the one with the Austrian emperors, damaged in war? And only those specific 5 out of the total of 7 statues on that side? And none of the 2 statues on top got hit? Or was it rather a nationalistic or possibly Communist decision? Both understandable and to a degree legitimate after WWII (apart from the two aspects of a)intervening in the depiction of history -Hungary has been under the Habsburgs for many, many centuries and its history cannot be separated from that of the empire, most certainly also for the better-, and b), that of art preservation). The truth please, this is Wikipedia. Arminden (talk) 13:34, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Three of those five were damaged: statue of Leopold II, Mary Theresa and Francis Joseph, but in the communist era all of them were replaced by others (there is an urban legend that they were replaced by statues of the "Great Communists", but it's not true); Ferdinand I's statue was replaced with István Bocskai's, Charles III's with Gábor Bethlen's, Mary Theresa's with Imre Thököly's, Leopold II's with Ferenc Rákóczi II's, and Francis Joseph I's with Lajos Kossuth's; the other two statues are John and Matthias Corvinus' who are, and were always considered positive personages (though historians don't really agree). The rest of the monument was restored, and the obelisque wasn't damaged. Adam bozso (talk) 17:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thököly[edit]

Can someone please explain me how exactly Imre Thököly represents the Battle of Szikszó? He was literally a leader under Ottomans, died in Ottoman Empire together with many properties granted to him by the Padishah. How is he even related to that battle? BerkBerk68talk 18:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to the caption on the statue, it shows that Thököly’s forces defeat the “labancok”, which term describes pro-Habsburg Hungarians (and Austrians). According to the file description page, the statue is from 1954—the time of the Cold War, when the Western Austria—and thus also the Habsburgs—were probably much bigger enemies than the (by the way also Western) Turkey. (Austria, as a direct neighbor, could pose threat to Hungary, and while Turkey’s NATO entry did threaten the USSR, it was probably not directly dangerous for Hungary.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 08:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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