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Jacobites[edit]

Surely the Jacobite attempt of 1745-46 was a major crisis for him to deal with, yet it is not mentioned in the text. I think a war on home soil in the middle of his tenure as PM warrants a mention especially in conjunction with the War of Austrian Succession which is mentioned. Maybe someone well versed in the minutae of British politics at the time can add something, I dont feel qualified. In good faith AMM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.101.109 (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consistency about the "Two Days" & "Four Days" Prime Ministers[edit]

Please see Talk:List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom#The Two Days & Four Days Prime Ministers for discussion about consistency on how to handle the events of February 1746 and June 1757 on the various lists on ministers and ministries. Timrollpickering 22:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Question about References[edit]

The Reference section at the end of this article says that "Some material has been adapted from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica." In fact, entire sections (such as Section 2 Achievements) are lifted completely word for word from Britannica without specific reference to that source in the section itself or placing it in quotes. See http://books.google.com/books?id=GKMMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA474&lpg=PA474&dq=insubordination+might+exist+within+the+cabinet&source=bl&ots=TuKd8DitTI&sig=ExI5hyv4qPEnH1VmMpmynTJQHGM&hl=en&ei=gPlCTbOlMsP7lweKwpkF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=insubordination%20might%20exist%20within%20the%20cabinet&f=false Is this style acceptable in Wikipedia? Sir Cloudesley Shovel II (talk) 17:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NNDB[edit]

When updating references, I found that the page about Henry Pelham on the web site NNDB shares a very large portion of text with this Wikipedia article, word for word. I do not know (yet) which is the oldest. Is Wikipedia violating NNDB's copyright or is it the other way around? Bever (talk) 22:54, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NNDB are themselves copying the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica. When Wikipedia started, it was common for articles on historical people to use the public domain entry from the Encyclopaedia.--Britannicus (talk) 23:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just found out the same. The link in the previous section did not work temporarily, so I had some trouble with searching. I dislike that NNDB does not give this source, it is not a copyright violation but not very honest. So I think it has to be removed from this article as a source. By the way that Pelham was a member from the Church of England does not really need a reference anyway, since people from all other denominations were excluded from political office at the time... Bever (talk) 23:41, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Broad-Bottomed Administration: "One social consequence of the press gangs going to sea..."[edit]

This paragraph is drunk! What does it mean to say, and how can it be clarified? Jperrylsu (talk) 07:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Henry IX nickname[edit]

Can anyone find a reliable source to substantiate the claim that his nickname was "Henry IX"? I had a quick search and couldn't find anything, so removed Pelham's name from the Henry IX disambiguation page. Meticulo (talk) 05:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Start rating[edit]

Neveselbert (mobile) please could you explain why you have rated the article start? The automatic rater rates it C 87%, for what it is worth. TSventon (talk) 12:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TSventon, I don't believe the referencing is up to par with a C-class article. The article is also comparatively short, considerably shorter than such C-class articles of British prime ministers as Robert Walpole, for instance. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 02:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neveselbert (mobile) thanks, I was curious and thought it would be useful to note the problems on the talk page. I think that Start is a bit harsh as a WP:C-class article"may still have significant problems or require substantial cleanup" and the article has 21kB, while Wing the example given of a C class article was only 15kB in 2018. TSventon (talk) 11:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]