Talk:Hassan II of Morocco

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One of the greatest leaders of the XXst century —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.101.100.51 (talk • contribs) .

that you are free to believe. but please don't delete the article to replace it with copy-&-paste from the moroccan foreign ministry again. Arre 00:53, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to hear more about him, and why Arre thinks he's so great, but this articles says NOTHING! For example, he reigned guring the Six Day War. What was his position on it? Did he play any sort of role? The article on the Six Day War implies he did, but here, nothing. 65.92.134.250 (talk) 21:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions[edit]

I removed these sentences because they are not based on facts:

  • "After this, tensions slowly cooled down, aided by the king's newfound nationalist credentials in claiming Western Sahara in 1975." was removed because Moroccan claims on Western Sahara date back to 1956 and have nothing to do with the military coups. Tensions with the opposition did not cool down neither. They even culminated in 1973 and 1981.
  • "and saw many thousands of dissidents", hundreds sounds more realistic, especially in the light of the findings of the truth and reconciliation commission.
  • " after pressure from the United States". The US has been a close ally to Morocco, how come they did not pressure Morocco before 1991. The pressure from the US is baseless.
  • Added to his merits the Alternance.

--A Jalil 00:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As you have said, the US was a close ally of Morocco as the country opposed the rise of Arab Socialism in the Arab World, and thus, tolerated the human rights abuses committed by King Hassan II's administration. But after 1991, and the end of the Cold War, this strategic position in the fight against Communism and Socialism was lost, and thus, the US began to pressure Morocco to liberalize and relax the oppressive policies of it's Intelligence Services. As a Moroccan, I can attest to this. 105.67.130.162 (talk) 13:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this article says that King Hassan II was born in 1929 and married in 1926

The sentence means that Sultan Mohammed V married Lalla Abla in 1926, and begot Hassan II in 1929.--A Jalil 21:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doc[edit]

I'm writing an article on Donald S. Fredrickson, who was the king's personal physician for 30 years. JFW | T@lk 00:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good for you! Mindman1 00:32, 25 July (UTC)

cause of death?[edit]

Cause of death? Cancer? Heart attack? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Six Day War?[edit]

Why is Hassan's role, if any, in such a fundamental event as the six day war completely ignored? It's like writing a biography of Any world leader today and not bother to so much as mention his position and possible role in the Iraq War. 65.92.134.250 (talk) 21:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hassan II and Libya[edit]

"In the early 1970s, King Hassan survived two assassination attempts. The first, in 1971, was a coup d'état attempt allegedly supported by Libya, organized by General Mohamed Medbouh and Colonel M'hamed Ababou" This statement statement looks highly dubious to me, as no sources confirm on even cite this hypothesis. You can read the main article about the coup d'état and are welcome to modify it if there are sources supporting this claim about Libya. However there has been revelations about another assassination attempt by Muammar Gaddafi in 1987 (16 years later). (in French)[1] Xerxes (contact) 16:32, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the fact that Gaddafi attempted to assassinate the King in 1987, is alone strong evidence for the claim that Libya _allegedly_ supported the 1971 Skhirat coup attempt. The two countries remained at odds since the rise of Muammar Gaddafi to power in Libya in 1969, until his overthrow in 2011. Libya under his dictatorship was staunchly Anti-Monarchist, and while I do agree with you that sources and citations are crucial to confirm such allegations or even make them, we also have to remember that Gaddafi was fond of backing coups and political destabilization attempts abroad to advance his Agenda, which includes the assassination of critics and other leaders. I mean, the guy is even alleged to have backed the assassination of Anwar Sadat. 105.67.130.162 (talk) 13:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Blanking of content[edit]

@Mino2500: When someone reverts your change for unexplained removal of content, that isn't an invitation to revert the reversion with no edit summary; it means you need to explain why you're removing the content. I'm going to give you a chance to explain here in this thread, but until you provide a reason for removal, the content will be reinstated. Builder018 (talk) 23:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

King Hassan II had a strong personality, he used to rule the country with the Moroccan constitution. The kingdom has a king, government, parliament and constitution. The word dictator does not apply to the king, nor to the way he governs.

Thank you. Mino2500 (talk) 00:14, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The section makes no actual claims that he is a dictator, instead stating that he was accused of being one. It's perfectly proper to leave that in, regardless of how he actually governed. Builder018 (talk) 00:35, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please mention or "add" who accused the king. Mino2500 (talk) 00:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There already seems to be more detailed versions of the accusations and why they were made under the "rule" section of the article. Builder018 (talk) 00:59, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accusing the king of dictatorship without evidence is a kind of lie and hate of speech. I would like to remove the word "dictator" as soon as possible. Thank you. Mino2500 (talk) 02:00, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm making no such accusations, but in no way does it constitute hate speech. The article fairly covers that some people have called him one, without asserting that he is or is not one; I see no legitimate reason to remove that. Furthermore, please avoid continuing to remove content while a discussion is in progress, as you may fall in violation of Wikipedia's Edit Warring Rules, and 3 Revert Rule. Builder018 (talk) 13:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Restructuring[edit]

This article is mostly organized thematically. It should be restructured to be more chronological. إيان (talk) 08:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unexplained word[edit]

The word "Mawlay" appears as the first word of his biography (under "Early life and education") and twice more as the first word in captions to photographs from his youth. It is not made clear in any of those locations whether this is a title or a name, although his full name appears in the panel under "Names" without that word. This unexplained, unreferenced non-English word in an English-language article can't be understood without prior cultural knowledge or reference outside Wikipedia. Please, could it be explained or referenced by someone more expert than I? Neil (London) (talk) 13:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Moroccan here. The word "Mawlay" is the Arabic Word for "My Leader" or "My King". 105.67.130.162 (talk) 13:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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