Talk:Guru Ram Rai Darbar Sahib

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Did you know... that, unusual for a Sikh place of worship, Guru Ram Rai Darbar Sahib (pictured) in India was influenced by Islamic architecture?

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DYK Nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The temple in 1858

... that unusually for a Sikh place of worship, Guru Ram Rai Darbar Sahib (pictured) in India was influenced by Islamic architecture? page 37

Created by CallMeByYourMane (talk). Self-nominated at 08:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article is long enough, less than 7 days old, looks well-cited for a new article of this size (relies on one source a lot but it looks like a reliable book, and there are other sources showing that it is notable enough to be mentioned elsewhere). In the article, maybe the claim of Aurangzeb providing lands and funds for the building could use its own citation, but that's the only potential gap I see. Tone is neutral. No sign of plagiarism (3.8% with Earwig). The hook is also cited accordingly, is interesting, and easy to understand for general readers. Overall: a nice contribution and a nice hook. (Note: It's my first DYK review so the QPQ rules aren't fully clear to me, but I think this is nominator's first DYK nomination so I assume they're not required to review another nomination.) Robert Prazeres (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review, Robert Prazeres. No QPQ required, this being my first nomination. Will add the Aurangzeb citation, thanks! CallMeByYourMane (talk) 05:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback from New Page Review process[edit]

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: An interesting and well-written article..

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hook[edit]

Sorry for being critical after the fact, but the DYK hook is incorrect. Since the very first gurdwara, all Sikh architecture has been deeply influenced by Islamic architecture – the religion was founded in the middle of the Delhi Sultanate. See for example our article on Sikh architecture: it says "Sikh Architecture is heavily influenced by Mughal and Rajput styles".

What the hook is trying to say is that certain elements of this temple were much more influenced by contemporary Islamic architectural movements than most Sikh temples of the period – I get that those nuances make it too wordy, but without them we have something obviously incorrect. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I thank you for your critical reading Onceinawhile. I'm in agreement with you, but feel that calling it "obviously incorrect" is a stretch. I myself thought of making it more specific, perhaps by focusing on the Mughal-style gardens around it or the minarets that make it look more like a tomb/mosque. In hindsight, I should have acted on my hunch and rephrased it to better justify the unusual nature of the building. But that could have diminished the, oh well, hookiness... but thanks for your comment! CallMeByYourMane (talk) 08:59, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have rephrased the section in the lead to better explain the background. Best, CallMeByYourMane (talk) 09:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]