Talk:Greta Gerwig/Archive 1

Archive 1

Concerns for encyclopedic value and due weight

As I mentioned in edit summary, in my view this item reported only by one gossip column and denied by the subject doesn't rise to level of encyclopedic info. (The additional sources added subsequently do not offer any further reporting substantiating the claim of reporters being told not to ask Gerwig about the Lincoln Center letter--they specify they are just repeating what was in the Post as far the claim is concerned, and actually the only additional reporting is to confirm the denial.) Additionally, it only adds to the whole section's due weight problem; having more than approximately one sentence about her involvement with the letter--that it has a subheader in the entry at all--is pretty deeply disproportionate to the amount of attention reliable secondary sources have paid it compared with other topics in Gerwig's career, and strikes me as an example of WP:RECENTISM. If we were writing a 300-page book about her, it might be a different story, but for an encyclopedia entry recapping her life, I think odds are decent that in ten years time no one will think "Gerwig signs then retracts letter" merits even one sentence. Innisfree987 (talk) 23:21, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

The letter she signed was reported by the New York Times and many other sources, so that should stay. I'm not sure why you are so dead set on cleansing her history here. it's a fact that took a political stance on Israel, and it's a fact that many reliable sources reported on it. it's also only a couple lines, so UNDUE Is not really an issue. If you wanted, you could move it to the personal section. In sum: it happened, and reliable sources exist.104.163.155.95 (talk) 23:35, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Ideas for new contributions to this page and its reorganization

I agree wholeheartedly with the above user that there is an issue of due weight on this page. The fact that the "Controversies" section of Greta Gerwig's history is longer than the "Honors" section seems problematic. Not to say that the controversies raised should be swept under the rug or considered invalid, just that the other segments should be expanded to reflect a more balanced perspective. In order to do this I propose adding in some segments discussing her acting, writing, and directing contributions to the indie movie and mumblecore scenes (she is known as an indie it-girl, so I think it's important to note why on this page), as well as listing more of the recognition she has received in the "Honors" section rather than through a secondary link under "Awards and Nominations". This can help make this page more of a serious discussion of her artistic work. I will include below a bibliography of some sources that I have found to help expand Gerwig's page. Please let me know if you agree or disagree or have any further suggestions!

Radner, Hillary. The New Woman's Film : Femme-Centric Movies for Smart Chicks. New York, NY : Routledge, 2017.

Jacobowitz, Florence, and Richard Lippe. “The City & Film.” CineAction, CineAction, 22 Mar. 2014, www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-371844325/the-city-film.

Lyons, James. Low-Flying Stars: Cult Stardom in Mumblecore. Palgrave Macmillan, London, 2013.

“NATIONAL BOARD OF REVIEW ANNOUNCES 2017 AWARD WINNERS.” National Board of Review, 28 Nov. 2017, www.nationalboardofreview.org/2017/11/national-board-review-announces-2017-award-winners/.

Wicks, Amanda. “Golden Globes 2018: Lady Bird Wins Best Motion Picture, Musical or Comedy.” Golden Globes 2018: Lady Bird Wins Best Motion Picture, Musical or Comedy | Pitchfork, Pitchfork, 7 Jan. 2018, pitchfork.com/news/golden-globes-2018-lady-bird-wins-best-motion-picture-musical-or-comedy/.

NSandmann (talk) 20:08, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Greta Thunberg

Trillfendi says Thunberg is confused with Gerwig because they're both named Greta. Is there any evidence to support this claim? It might make sense to me if they were both in the film industry, but I've never heard anyone confuse these two people. Unless there's some kind of evidence to support this change I'd recommend removing it. - Nemov (talk) 16:18, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Nemov, I've reverted. I have NEVER heard someone get them mixed up. Other than sharing a first name, their last names are nowhere near similar. Get me some evidence that people frequently mix them up and we can put it back. QueerFilmNerd^talk 04:39, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

QueerFilmNerd, I support your opinion. I have reverted Trillfendi's edit again. You'll need more support for this change to stay. Some evidence there's confusion would help. Thanks! - Nemov (talk) 18:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)