Talk:Greenwich Hospital, London

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Some pictures....

Trompe l'oeil work
Wren's dome interior
samuel pepys building
Baroque ceiling

--Mcginnly | Natter 14:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Building vs. foundation[edit]

The Greenwich Hospital charitable foundation (still in existence) and the old Greenwich Hospital building have separate Wikidata items, Greenwich Hospital (Q15137935) and Greenwich Hospital (Q96311011). This creates something of a dilemma, since the majority of this article discusses the charitable functions of the foundation rather than the architecture of the building. The Commons category Category:Greenwich Hospital is certainly only related to Q15137935 but it seems more logical to link this article to Q96311011, if only that didn't create a disconnect in interwiki links. To attempt to resolve that problem, I made a redirect page, Greenwich Hospital (building) and linked Q15137935 to it. Is this a good solution? In spite of the bulk of the article being about the foundation, the disambiguation description reads "This article is about the historic Royal Hospital for Seamen at Greenwich" which refers to the building. The description on the disambiguation page used to also do so, rather ambiguously; I changed it from "London, UK, a home for retired Royal Navy sailors (1692–1869)" to "a charitable foundation for retired Royal Navy sailors, which provided housing at Greenwich Hospital in London, UK, from 1692 to 1869." Maybe there should be two separate articles. Levana Taylor (talk) 20:47, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I don't think that we should change the wikipedia article just because someone has created too many wikidata items. It seems to me that wikidata should follow wikipedia not the other way round. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will have to disagree with that. It's definitely not too many WD items to have separate ones for the charity and the building, especially since the charity is still in existence and no longer housed in the building. Wikipedias don't, and can't, have a separate article for every Wikidata item, and sometimes it makes sense to discuss several related topics in one article, there's no problem with that. But in theory, a Wikipedia in a different language could choose to have separate articles about the historic Greenwich Hospital building and the royal foundation which used to house pensioners in it. I just mentioned the fact of the two wikidata items to explain why there's a redirect page, which I created largely as a way to link the wikidata items. Creating that page led me to look at the disambiguation texts for the "Greenwich Hospital, London," article, and being as I thought they were a little unclear as to the scope and focus of the article, I was soliciting feedback as to whether those need to be rewritten. Levana Taylor (talk) 20:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I misunderstood, but the majority of your comments seemed to about Wikidata items.... But putting Wikidata on one side, you say "the majority of this article discusses the charitable functions of the foundation". I can only see one small paragraph headed up "Greenwich Hospital: the charity". If you want to spin the charity bit off into a separate article I do not have a problem with that. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 21:00, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The more I look at the article, I think you are right. I have changed the redirect to the foundation instead. Levana Taylor (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 23:58, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]