Talk:Grand Theft Auto: Vice City/Archive 2

Character

It says the character is different to the Liberty City one thats not true to my knowledge he just dosent speak in Liberty City? - Mike Beckham 04:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

You are mistaken. They are, in fact, different characters. If you play the game this is evident. The protagonist of GTA III is Claude Speed and the one from Vice City is Tommy Vercetti. --Kamasutra 21:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Theme song

For everybody else who was wondering what the theme song of Vice City was called: it seems to be "I ran (so far away)" by Flock of Seagulls. Amazing that I couldn't find a single notion of the exact title and artist until after intense googling.

It's also listed in the soundtrack, but that doesn't do you any good if you keep on searching for "I run". -- Ashmodai 16:25, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

The theme song is obviously original writing. The Flock of Seagulls song to which you refer is far different, and is actually on the "Wave 103" soundtrack in the game...two completely different songs. Eganio 20:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

"I Ran" was actually used as the theme for the game's trailer, but, indeed, the theme of the actual game itself is an original mock-80s-synth-pop composition, probably by Craig Conner or Allan Walker I'd presume. Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 18:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

One of the spanish-titled songs

...On radio espantoso, there's a song called "La vida es un lenteja" which translates literally as "Life is a lentil". This doesnt make any sense, so I'm wondering if, since R* wrote the song, there's some other meaning that I, as a 4th year spanish student, do not get...-albrozdude 04:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Returned Vehicles

Here are the vehicles that returned from GTA III and it looks a lot improved:

• BF Injection (improved)
• Perennial (improved)
• Manana (improved
• Bus (improved)
• Cheetah (improved)
• Stallion (improved)
• Coach (improved)
• Sentinel (improved)
• Patriot (improved)
• Stretch (improved)
• Cabbie (improved)
• Taxi (improved)
• Idaho (improved)
• Stinger (improved)
• Mule (improved)
• Yankee (improved)

This is the one I have found the vehicles which it has returned. Note that the BF Injection now has headlights because in GTA III, the BF Injection is a hidden car. I'll say that in GTA III, the BF Injection has no headlights (until in GTA Vice City). Anything Else

Discussion of the game's vehicles is just not relevant in this article. In list of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto series, perhaps, but all of the vehicles in this game have been mentioned. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 18:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC) ╫

Sorry about that. All I was saying is that the fourth game of Vice City, they do have returned vehicles from GTA III, and all I can say that these cars were a lot improved. Anything Else

I agree with Anything Else, ZS (a.k.a) RingADing. They do have returned vehicles and are quite improving, thanks to Rockstar North and Rockstar games. And with DMA out of the picture, I'd say that Rockstar North is the best developer ever. Some guy ^{Note: Possible user impersonation by 38.117.208.24 (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)}

I still don't see the relevance of this, nor whether "improved" is a NPOV description in the case of the vehicles (because it's also learnt that some GTA:VC players also dislike certain GTA:VC renditions of the vehicles). Another fact of the matter is that reappearances of vehicles and names are nothing new. GTA1, GTA: London and GTA2 had vehicles that were also tied with each other by name or by physical appearance:

• Porka/Porka Turbo (GTA1) and Porka 910 (London 1961).
• Bug (GTA1), Bug (London 1969) and Bug (GTA2).
• Jugular (GTA1), Jug Swinger/Jugular E/Jug MkII (London 1969), Jug D Type (London 1961), and Jagular XK (GTA2).
• Stinger/Stinger Z29 (GTA1) and Stinger (GTA2).

╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 18:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC) ╫

Well, I might not know what does NPOV Stand for. Can you, ZS? Best Gamer 29 August 2006

A link up was provided in my reply, wasn't it? :) Although what I was actually trying to note is the bias towards GTA III-canon vehicles, and that the reappearance of these vehicles in GTA:VC is nothing new in the series. Sorry for the confusion. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 11:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC) ╫

Hold on, ZS. I now understand what NPOV stand for. It stands for Neutral Point Of View! Best Gamer 9 September 2006

The NPOV usually stands for Neutral Point Of View. Sure it has returning vehicles, but he said that there is a list of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto series. if Anything Else does not get the answer, well, he should see this article. Professional Gamer 17:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Shark Attacks

Does any of you guys know about the shark attacks in Vice City? It does occur here, but can the shark usually kill the character or attacks the boat? Best Gamer 6 August 2006

It's another unproven myth. Sharks do swim in the sea, but they are static props and have never been capable of attacking and killing anybody. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 11:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC) ╫

So the sharks are incapable of attacking the character? Best Gamer 29 August 2006

That's correct. No Jaws, my friend.--Soetermans 07:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the instruction book says that Shark Attacks occur in Vice City, but it was all lies? Best Gamer 5 September 2006

Lies, lies... Consider it to be a funny aspect of the instruction booklet. --Soetermans 20:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think the fans might find out if the sharks were not mean't to attack and kill the character. Can you know that in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas does include Shark Attcks? Best Gamer 5 September 2006

No, my fellow gamer, there are no animal attacks of any kind in either game. No seagull crapping on your head, no dog biting your behind, no poisonious spiders and no shark attacks. If you don't mind me asking, what is your aim here? Are you making a schoolpaper about animal features in the GTA series? --Soetermans 10:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

No. I say you're right. There are no animal attacks in GTA games. My aim here is to make things right in this article. Best Gamer 6 September 2006

Well, I did see the Instruction Manual that says that Shark Attacks occur in Washington Beach. But since there are no Shark Attacks, they're holograms and several fans fell for this joke. But the character can still lose health if it falls into the waters. I think he lacks swimming, like in GTA3. Best Gamer 11 October 2006

That's right. Tommy can't swim. But I can't imagine "they're holograms and several fans fell for this joke".

The sharks are just static images at all times? I bet in Vice City Stories will feature a real shark, but will the hidden packages be available? Professional Gamer 19:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

My dear Best Gamer and Professional Gamer, please accept the fact the sharks in GTA: VC are nothing more than plain images. They will not attack you. Tommy Vercetti can't swim, that's why you will eventually die if you get too far beneath the surface. For your bet on shark attacks featured in VCS, I wouldn't know, but I find it unlikely. Animal attacks haven't been featured in any so far. Your question if hidden packages will be available, which should be known by now, are either found on the article of Vice Ciy Stories, or any good game website. --Soetermans 21:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

vigilantes

The page says about 80's references:

In fact, if the player's "wanted level" reaches three stars, an undercover sports car joins the police in chasing the player; the occupants of the sports car are two undercover police officers who dress in a manner reminiscent of Miami Vice's lead characters.

But these guys are not cops: they are the "vigilantes" -- private citizens chasing criminals. If you kill them and get in their car, it is called the Vigilante Cheetah, and you can do vigilante missions to hunt down criminals, just as you can do in the police car, SWAT truck, FBI van, FBI Washington, tank, army truck, and Apache helicopter. If you get to a certain level in the vigilante mission, then you the bulletproof vest gives you 150 armor instead of just 100. One of the best aspects of the game -- needs to be on the page! Chymicus 20:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I have to disagree with the argument in the last paragraph. Firstly, the name of the vehicle in question is the "Police Cheetah." Secondly, one may notice badges worned by these men's, implying that they are plain clothed or undercover police officers. Thirdly, vigilante missions also apply to vehicles that are otherwise associated with formal law enforcement (as the paragraph has obviously stated); it is the player that activates the side-mission who becomes the vigilante. The 150-point armor is also irrelevant to be mentioned in this article because it's only a minor reward in the game. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 14:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC) ╫

I agree with Ring, it is no more than a minor part of the game. Besides, the object of a videogame Wiki page is not to describe every little detail about progressing trough the game. --Soetermans 20:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

7 star wanted level ??

my friend said there is a 7 star wanted level where a UFO chases you is that true ??~ moe 14:55, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

A seven star wanted level is never, ever a feature in the game, or the entire series for that matter. I would also like to advice posting questions like these in a GTA forum (like GTAforums) instead in the future, the talk page is meant for discussions regarding changes in the article, not the GTA: Vice City itself. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 15:39, 22 September 2006 (UTC) ╫

The 7 star wanted level is not true. The only hardest level it has is a 6 star wanted level. It deploys like the same technique like in GTA3, except the militaries has twice the strentgh, Rhinos and Barracks OLs will be twice as stronger than in GTA3. Best Gamer 9 October 2006

Also, I mean, come on. UFOs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.81.164 (talk • contribs)

No UFO is there in VC (but u can download mod from net which can replace any heli with a UFO) Anishgirdhar 07:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Making Money

I hate to complain about this game but it was hard to make millions (apart from vigilante) in this game. People were claimed to be rich but were stingy with their money. Tommy recieved less than $50,000 after a mission. In GTA III, Claude recieved over $50,OOO and millions.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grand_Theft_Auto:_Vice_City"; as if it reappeared as magic.

• sigh*. I hate it you complain about this game all together. This is an encyclopedia. Your opinion doesn't matter in this case. The fact that money is something hard to get by in this game (which, in my opinion, is far more real) isn't worthy of putting in either. So please, don't get upset if I deleted your pointless post.--Soetermans 17:51, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Bodies in Cove Area

Towards the area that opens into the sea and connects the canals to the ocean, there are bodies in the water that have concrete "shoes" on them. They can be found on the rocks as well as on the bottom. -VonR

Your point being...? This is the talk page of the article of GTA:VC, not a FAQ or a walktrough. --Soetermans 21:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

His point being: This article hasnt got any trivia or easteregg, which was what I looked for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.48.185.54 (talk) 21:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it has no trivia, and it's never going to get one. Trivias aren't encyclopedic. 21:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC) TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 21:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Robot Chicken

I know there is a parody of this game with Mario and Luigi in the episode Lust for Puppets, but I don't know what section would fit best, any help? TheBlazikenMaster 19:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's relevent, to be honest. Dbam ^Talk/_{Contributions} 20:19, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree: irrelevant. Eganio 18:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, in my opinion it is very notable because it's the only spoof of this game I'm aware of. Why the hell not? TheBlazikenMaster 20:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't make it notable in the slightest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.191.197 (talk) 20:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

And where do we draw the line? Do we include every popular culture reference to this game that anyone can claim as unique? The fact that you say it's the only spoof of the game you're aware of tells us right there that any section comprised of such references will quickly degenerate into original research and arguments over purported allusions to the GTA series. In short, I think it's a nice note, but irrelevant to this encyclopedic article. Eganio 01:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Song Name

What's the name of song played when tommy gets a private lapdance ? It's Goin' Down 19:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What does this have to do with the article? Eganio 19:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Can somebody please tell me who voiced Mr. Black and Leo Teal as well as Rico and Pepe. Please.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.58.112 (talk • contribs)

Please go to a dedicated fan site for GTA: VC. There are plenty out there from which I'm sure you can obtain this information. This forum is not intended for discussion of the article's content, rather for discussing the article itself. Thank you. Eganio^Talk 21:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Weapons

Should there be a mention of the different categories in more detail. They are very briefly glossed over where it says "There are 10 categories" but it then neglects to say what they are. It wouldn't exactly take up much time or space. TheTrojanHought (talk) 13:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree that any more detail needs to be added. How would enumerating the categories enhance this article? Don't you think that might be a little crufty? Just a thought. Otherwise, I agree that it wouldn't take up much time or space, and certainly wouldn't have any issues with verifiability. Eganio^Talk 20:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)