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Issues with the article[edit]

1. Media Imperialism This article really caught my eye because it is a keen illustration of the kind of misinformation that is routinely spawned in countries often accused of being 'imperialists'; in this case we would be dealing with 'media' imperialism. Surely it is not a good idea to have the members of one country write the histories of another? Or members of a dominanant ideology presenting only their version of events?

2. Source Material Also, because I'm a new user, I'm very surprised that Wikipedia allows newspaper articles to be considered as 'sources'. That is laughable, and a first year course in Research101 will educate members as to the dangers of using the media as a source. The media is only a source of media myths that are current, and myths that are part of a culture's tradition. At the very least, an opinion piece that is used as a 'source', should be clearly marked as a source.

3. Discrimination and Stereotyping Is there a reason why the subject of the article is included in a category called 'White South Africans'? Is there a similar category for 'Black South Africans"? Perhaps we should also add a category 'German Jews' or perhaps one called 'Targets of possible genocide despite their original liberal views'? The writers of this article need to read Amnesty Internationals information on the typical '8 Steps to Genocide' which might better inform their selection of information, which - at the moment - is extremely prejudicial.

The Glenn Babb in the article does not exist in reality except in the (possibly media-fed) imagination of the writers of the articles. The Glenn Babb that exists in reality was a tireless advocate of human rights, of finding the Best Way Forward and of using the existing system to effect peaceful change. You would never guess that looking at the 'facts' presented in the article, though. The article literally presents him as 'just another white South African'.

4. Main article: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons I'm going to ask the writers to consider whether the following Wiki rules could be applied to their work: When adding material to the biography of a living person Main article: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons Biographies of living persons should be sourced with particular care, for legal and ethical reasons. All contentious material about living persons must cite a reliable source. If you find unsourced or ***poorly sourced*** contentious material**** about a living person—whether in an article or on a talk page—remove it immediately! Do not leave it in the article while you request a source. Do not move it to the talk page. This applies whether the material is in a biography or any other article.Tyrwhitt (talk) 06:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject South Africa assessment[edit]

Assessed as C-Class. Just falls short on supporting materials (some images and an infobox would be nice) and style issues to get it passed as B-Class. Ron2K (talk) 13:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CBC Radio Interview[edit]

Babb was interviewed by Michael Enright on CBC's Sunday Morning on 13 Jan 2013. I met Babb several times last time I was in Cape Town. Charming man - made out to be a racist by nutters.