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Reference[edit]

Resource:

http://www.isle-of-skye.org.uk/celtic-encyclopaedia/celt_g1b.htm,

Pronunciation[edit]

Could anyone in the know add a remark about the pronunciation of the word? Qatharsis 11:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Added, but my IPA isn't great. If someone wants to check to make sure it's correct (should result in a word sounding like gesh, with a hard g) then I'd appreciate it. g026r 14:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like you got it right. I just added { {IPA|} } to clean it up. Gitman00 15:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Did the IPA get messed up somehow? It's currently listed as [ˈkes], but for "gesh" it should be [ˈgeʃ] or [ˈgɛʃ], depending on the vowel sound. (This website indicates it's the latter option: http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-gei1.htm) Evaliir (talk) 16:55, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Original Research Claim[edit]

Taken from what you linked to

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I'm guessing you're referring to...the second one? the fifth one?

You can find MANY "researchable" locations noting that Code Geass relates to geas. A simple google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=Code+geass+geas) finds many examples.

One easy example: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6704&page=22

Also, this whole *page* has no sources. Maybe this whole *page* needs a "SOURCE REQUIRED" link. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.248.63.92 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 25 June 2007. Also, all of that above was me Fattierob 19:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fattierob (talk • contribs) 19:46, 25 June 2007.[reply]

First of all, the content you are adding to the article constitutes speculation, rumors, is unverifiable (not being sourced by a single official, reliable source), and therefore cannot be included into an Wikipedia article per Wikipedia's policies on verifiability and numerous other policies. A Google search nor a user-added trivia section is not a verifiable nor reliable source and therefore cannot be used in articles. Please refrain from adding unverified or false content into articles. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu 19:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For a more detailed explanation, please see Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Attribution, to understand why such content cannot be included into articles. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu 19:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
my edit disappeared. please hold on a moment, I need to re-type it up Fattierob 20:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OBJECTION! The source I listed is from Anime News Network, which is a *reliable* source.

  • Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors *are generally regarded as trustworthy, or are authoritative in relation to the subject at hand.

Somebody *had* to approve the user submited trivia, ergo, that information is on THAT person's credability. Whoever approved (moderator, admin, whatever) that information to appear on ANN website is the source of that information. Not to mention the website of http://www.geass.jp (more specifically: http://www.geass.jp/world_01.html and http://www.geass.jp/world_02.html)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fattierob (talk • contribs) 20:06, 25 June 2007.

First of all, the ANN trivia page you're trying to cite is an anonymous user-added section and therefore cannot be included into the article as this is simply not a reliable source. The author is therefore not trustworthy nor authoritative, therefore this cannot be simply added to the article; this is an extremely important part of a reliable sources— you will note that similar "trivia" sections from other websites are also not considered reliable sources, if you check any of the featured film and television articles on Wikipedia. Also, I've checked the official website myself, nowhere where it is stated about "geas", so I'm afraid these are all speculation and rumours, which can't be included per Wikipedia:Verifiability. Please do not add such content into articles, which does not serve adding anything useful, I'm afraid. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu 20:18, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anonymous user-added section? Who approved it? Not that Anonymous user. Thats the point i'm getting at it. Also, the website meantions Geisyu or was it Geasya?....I was using google translater. That sounds like good enough engrish to me to mean "geas". Or is that also an unreliable source of information, right from the gift horse?Fattierob 20:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The official website is actually referring to the in-show term geass (katakana: (ギアス, giasu)), as used in Code Geass, which is different from the actual Celtic term geas (ゲッシュ ([gesshu] Error: {{nihongo}}: text has italic markup (help))), as used in this article (please see the Japanese wikipedia article for geas). The website, and neither does any official source, as I've researched myself, cites this, therefore I would simply like to advise you not to cite such false statements. Regarding the ANN trivia page, whether not "who approved" it does not concern Wikipedia, as only the reliability of the author of that particular source matters, which is an anonymous user of no authority; see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Therefore, this cannot be included in the article, as it is merely speculation on the part of fans, and not supported by a single official source (as I have just verified myself).···巌流? · talk to ganryuu 20:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
allright. that clears it up. Thanks for your time. On a related note, whats stopping me from making a small blog or website that just says "CODE GEASS IS A REFERENCE TO GEAS"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fattierob (talk • contribs) 20:57, 25 June 2007.
Well, small blogs/websites shouldn't also be included, since they aren't official, notable nor authoritative, so they can't be used as references in any article, if that's what you're asking. ···巌流? · talk to ganryuu 21:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since you guys can't agree on if it should be here, how about removing it, since it's a MASSIVE FRICKIN SPOILER with no warning? Seriously. 96.227.82.62 (talk) 10:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page Move[edit]

IIRC, this was originally at Geasa, and the article was written as if Geasa were the singular. I'm pretty sure I'm the one who changed it to the singular, Geas. But the thing is, there's nothing in here about Scottish lore, and it seems silly to have it under the Scottish version of the name. So, I'm moving it to the OI and Mod. Ir form, Geis. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 07:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Geis" is not the modern Irish form. Geas is. Geis is a grammatical construction of the word geas. "Chuir sé geas orm" (he put a spell on me); "Tá sé faoi gheas" (he is under a spell). Perhaps we could have a native Irish speaker make such changes and not a Scottish person, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.75.193 (talk) 17:01, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tynged[edit]

We could use some sourcing on this. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 20:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quibble[edit]

The examples by Shakespeare and Tolkien aren't really geasa; they're quibbles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.35.208.4 (talk) 06:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


In Popular Culture?[edit]

Considering the notoriety of the anime Code Geass, shouldn't this page have an In Popular Culture section referencing that geas are used as the inspiration for the powers that are used by the characters in that story? 130.126.143.59 (talk) 01:01, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See Irish mythology in popular culture: Geis. That's where that stuff goes. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 04:20, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's been quite a resurgence since the franchise has announced a bunch of tidbits regarding new shows & new movies. The Code Geass page is now three times as large as the article on Geas, it also has the word "Geas" literally in its name. Not including it here under some sort of pop culture tab is a massive disservice tot he entire community. The Code Geass wiki article links back to this page and I was shocked to find out that the anime was not mentioned anywhere on it. I have to assume some sort of racism or xenophobia against the Japanese is at play here. If this were any other article, it would be listed under a pop culture tab. I can find/cite dozens of examples if you'd like. The fact that you are so adamant against it leads me to believe you don't want your "white culture" tainted by the Japanese. MahRanch (talk) 14:38, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Geis vs Geas[edit]

Why is the page titled with Geis, when the more common spoken form is Geas?

Geis is only used in the dative or as an uncommon alternative "literary" form.

Also only "Geasa" refers to a prohibiting spell, not the singular "Geas".

Confirmation from the work of An tAthair Dinnín and An tAthair Peadar Ua Laoghaire available.

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